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Home > HOME > President Mugabe should be forced out: Botswana

President Mugabe should be forced out: Botswana


Nyasha Makuvise

Wed, 26 Nov 2008 12:27:00 +0000

Phandu Skelemani



BOTSWANA has called on all African countries neighbouring Zimbabwe to close all their borders to force regime change in Zimbabwe.

Speaking on BBC’s HardTalk programme, Botswana's foreign minister called on African nations to bring down the government of President Robert Mugabe.

Phando Skelemani, in one of the strongest statements ever issued by a government official in the Southern African Development Community, said mediation has failed to remove President Mugabe and African nations should impose sanctions to force that removal.

"If no petrol went in for a week, he can't last," Skelemani said on Wednesday.

Skelemani also called on the 15-nation Sadc community to “confront” President Mugabe.

He called on regional leaders to impose sanctions "this week" if the Zimbabwe power-sharing talks currently taking place in South Africa fail to produce a result.

He expressed little confidence in former South African President Thabo Mbeki’s Sadc-mandated mediation saying the group should "own up" and admit it has failed, and that it was “time for strong action”.

The latest statement is likely to worsen already frosty diplomatic relations between Zimbabwe and Botswana.

Skelemani also told the BBC that his country was willing to offer asylum to the MDC leader, although talks to form a unity government in Zimbabwe are currently taking place in South Africa mediated by Mbeki.

He also said his country would MDC leader Morgan Tsvangirai to launch a "democratic resistance movement" in Botswana, but not military action.

Skelemani defended President Khama’s supposed fear of President Mugabe saying the attendance at Sadc meetings was enough to send a clear message.

Asked by BBC reporter Stephen Sackur why President Khama always boycotts meetings where President Mugabe is in attendance, to deliver the Botswana statement clearly, Skelemani said it was enough to issue a statement and the two leaders need not necessarily come face-to-face to make that statement.

“Our Vice President is a man of the same stature,” he said.

Sackur questioned the Tswana foreign minister about his government’s stance on Zimbabwe which was in sharp contrast to South Africa’s quiet diplomacy.

Skelemani said Sadc reached decisions by consensus and Botswana’s views about Zimbabwe were in the minority within the regional grouping.

SHIFTING POLICY AGAIN

Skelemani’s statement comes against the backdrop of a visit to South Africa by a group of "Elders" led by former U.N. secretary general, Kofi Annan, late Mozambican President's wife and wife of former SA President Nelson Mandela, Graca Machel and former U.S. president Jimmy Carter – a visit viewed by the Zimbabwean government as meant to ratchet up pressure on Zimbabwe and bring it to the U.N. Security Council discussions.

Botswana President Ian Khama met with the "Elders" in South Africa, and since that meeting the country has again shifted its position on Zimbabwe.

Last week, before President Khama's meeting with Annan, Carter and Machel, Skelemani said his country will not recognise President Mugabe's government if the deadlock over a power sharing deal was not resolved within the next 6 months.

In the latest interview he says, neighbouring countries should impose sanctions against Zimbabwe "this week".

Skelemani’s latest interview is also in sharp contrast to a statement he made in October this year where he told journalists that his country was back in the fold of Sadc and would not refuse to recognise President Mugabe simply because there was an impasse in the negotiations.

“We will continue to encourage the parties to work together to reach an agreement. I don’t think it would be proper for us to say that we don’t recognise Mugabe simply because the parties are taking too long to reach an agreement,” said the Foreign Affairs minister, back in October.

His latest snub at former SA President Mbeki is in contrast to a statement he made back in October where he said Botswana's policy on Zimbabwe was now in line with that of the Sadc region and endorsed former South African President Thabo Mbeki’s continued facilitation in the Zimbabwean talks.

“My understanding is that he is Sadc’s envoy and I am sure that he will get the same respect he has always been accorded. We have always understood respect given to him to be respect given to Sadc,” the Tswana minister said.

EXTREME PROVOCATION

President Mugabe's government has accused the Botswana government of interference and said his call for fresh elections in Zimbabwe was an "act of extreme provocation".

This latest statement will not augur well with Zimbabwean Government which accused Botswana of training opposition MDC paramilitary groups to destabilize Zimbabwe.

A Government official who spoke to the Zimbabwe Guardian on Wednesday said this latest statement to remove President Mugabe was in line with allegations that Botswana was deliberately trying to effect regime change in Zimbabwe.

“This is in line with Botswana’s stance on Zimbabwe. Nothing is new. We know they are training MDC militia groups to destabilize this country,” said the official.

“We have always known this is Khama’s stance and this is not news to us.”


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Mhofeti pasizw@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Apology to Motswana
Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:35:27
Motswana, I'm sorry and do offer you and your fellow citizens my unreserved apology on my suggestion that Botswana was not one of the frontline states when chief Khama was in fact one of the founding fathers. I responded basing on the limited specific incidents you mentioned in support of the losses you incurred in your sacrifice for your neighbours' liberation struggles. As for the treatment of Zimbabweans by Tswanas as compared to other SADC countries it's nothing more than my own opinion based on my personal experience. I however still stand by my view that it's not a Pan-African idea to suggest closing all borders as a solution to a humanitarian crisis wreaking havoc to a neighbouring brother.


Motswana vasgudos@yahoo.com
Subject: Mhofeti
Thu, 27 Nov 2008 20:02:59
Mhofeti,i am going to reply to all the assertions that you made( concerning my previous comments) next week when i am free.Right now i am kind of stressed and busy.However, in the meantime i want you to engross yourself in the following article and prepare yourself thoroughly for my rebuttal next week with facts and NOT EMOTIONS.

The following article is courtesy of: SANF-South African News Features no 42, April 2005

Zimbabwe has honoured the leaders of the Frontline
States for their immense contribution to the liberation of the country and the region as a whole.

As part of its silver jubilee celebrations Zimbabwe awarded the regional heroes the Royal Order of Munhumutapa, which is the highest national honour.

The first chairperson of the frontline states, the late Mwalimu Julius Nyerere of Tanzania was honoured for his “exceptional accomplishments as the luminary and conscience of African nationalism.”

The citation said he was “the fulcrum of liberation efforts in the region for his outstanding contribution to Zimbabwe’s liberation struggle against colonialism and all its tentacles.”

The late Chief Seretse Khama of Botswana was recognised for his “exceptional commitment to the eradication of colonial domination, unyielding dedication to pan-African ideas and sterling contribution to Zimbabwe’s liberation struggle and the pursuit of justice and equality.”

Zambia’s founding president Kenneth Kaunda, the only leader among the five who is still alive, was honoured for his “exceptional strength of resolve, selfless dedication, revolutionary leadership and outstanding contribution during Zimbabwe’s long and arduous struggle for equality, justice and self-determination.”

Speaking during the award ceremony, Kaunda said that it is important to mention that the freedom of the people of Africa did not come as a gift, “black people rose up to challenge colonialism and apartheid and made sacrifices for independence,” he said.

Nyerere, Khama and Kaunda were the founding fathers of the Frontline States whose original membership was Botswana, Tanzania and Zambia. After 1975 the Frontline States grew to five members following the independence of Angola and Mozambique.

The late Mozambican president, Samora Machel, was honoured with the same award for his “exceptional revolutionary courage, unyielding determination, selfless dedication, inspirational leadership and outstanding contribution to Zimbabwe’s liberation struggle.”

Angola’s late president Agostinho Neto was honoured for his “exceptional commitment, dedication, inspirational leadership and outstanding contribution to Zimbabwe’s liberation struggle.”

Awards for the late leaders were received by their spouses or relatives who attended the award ceremony on the eve of Zimbabwe’s 25th anniversary of independence on 18 April. These included the wife of the late Mwalimu Nyerere, Mama Maria Nyerere; Tshekedi Khama, son of the late Khama; Samora Machel Junior, son of the late Machel; and Eugema Neto, the wife of the late Agostinho Neto.

“In according that honour, we are aware we do it for the whole of Africa which accords these great giants profound and eternal esteem. In humbly extending this honour, we draw attention to their epic deeds for Africa and more specifically for southern Africa,” said Zimbabwe’s President Robert Mugabe during the ceremony.

The leaders of the Frontline States met regularly from 1974-1994 to co-ordinate efforts, resources and strategies, in support of the national liberation movements of southern Africa that were fighting against colonialism, racism and white-minority rule.

A free Zimbabwe, as indeed a free Namibia and a free South Africa illustrate their accomplishments, which today translate into free and independent African people, said Mugabe.

They also had to confront the military and economic destabilisation of majority-ruled states by apartheid South Africa. The intensification of the struggle on both fronts strengthened bonds of solidarity and the need for collective action.

Most southern African countries had achieved political independence by 1980, but still had to deal with the challenges of poverty caused by colonial economic policies that favoured the minority, damaged economic infrastructure, and the threat of powerful and hostile white minority-ruled neighbours.

President Mugabe said the economic costs were also heavy through disrupted economic activity, destroyed infrastructure, diverted resources or forgone opportunities.

“Decolonisation of Africa should inspire us to strive for the attainment of sustainable economic and social development. The economic revival of Africa is a priority goal for the African Union,” said Kaunda.

Leaders from around the region also came to celebrate 25 years of independence, which was attained on 18 April 1980. They included Presidents Benjamin Mkapa of Tanzania, Hifikepunye Pohamba of Namibia, Festus Mogae of Botswana and Joseph Kabila of DRC, as well as Prime Ministers Luisa Diogo of Mozambique and Fernando da Piedade Dias dos Santos of Angola, and Swaziland’s Deputy Prime Minister, Albert Shabangu. There were also ministerial delegations from South Africa, Lesotho, Mauritius and further a field. (SARDC)


n/a n/a
Subject: Call for Prayer
Thu, 27 Nov 2008 16:28:48
Spread the word and preach the good news. Continue to pray. Zimbabweans must know that Jesus is coming soon. He wants you to prepare and his love calls to warn you to prepare. Pray hard, fast if you can. Pray for the salvation of souls. Leave everything that is evil. Don't cry and say God you have forsaken us and turn to your garments. Turn to your heart instead and make them clean. Curses from the past of civil war and such can only be broken by his blood. This is the ultimate peace offering or sacrifice that you can bring to him. Turn your bitter waters into sweet ones and be regenerated. Read Joel and Malachi.


Mhofeti pasizw@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Close borders with Zimbabwe - Botswana
Thu, 27 Nov 2008 16:10:53
Tando how does one stand his ground when he's not being attacked and are you also at liberty to disclose the little help that you praise the Tswanas for? Are you talking about physical war if not do you really have to be in Zimbabwe to fight for the rights of Zimbabwe? Supposing it's physical war, can you tell us (who ran away) who you are fighting with in Zimbabwe?
By unanimously calling for the lifting of sanctions, we are not asking for favours from USA and UK but simply claiming our God given rights to basic needs of life as enshrined in the UN Charter. Don't forget that these sanctions which are being increased day by day are not UN approved. They are from bullish big brothers.


tando tandizo@yahoo.com
Subject: Wake Up
Thu, 27 Nov 2008 14:43:17
I have friends I grew up with in Zimbabwe, my freinds have lost their relatives due to the liberation of Zim from the europeans, now we have cholera, it has taken my grandma away from me, we dont have any money, no place to stay, no work to do to try an earn a living, begging doesnt even help cause no one has anything to give. How can we as zimbabweans not see that comrade mugabe is killing our country. you all seem to have forgot that we all have relatives here in zimbabwe no matter where in the world you are hiding, you will always be the zimbos that ran away instead of fighting for the rights of zimbabwe, I praise the tswana for their help, little as it may be, they have stood their ground, this is more than what i can say for the rest of the men and woman of our once great nation.


Mhofeti pasizw@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Tichafanadzo
Thu, 27 Nov 2008 14:26:01
Tichafanadzo my bro/sister what unfavourable and unhealthy deal is there for Tsvangirai to be forced into more than the suffering and dying of our families and relatives? What shall it take to think about what's good for us and our families and not let Tsvangirai hold us at ransom? Our families have a right to life without both Tsvangirai and Mugabe, have you ever thought along those lines?


Mhofeti pasizw@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Close borders with Zimbabwe - Botswana
Thu, 27 Nov 2008 13:40:21
Motswana whilst every single life is sacred and one too many, I think the fact still stands that you were not one of the frontline states in our liberation struggle. I'm actually surprised you did so little and yet still feel you need to say so much. I stand corrected that Zimbabweans are treated the worst by Botswana in the whole of Southern Africa. If you sincerely want to help in a brother's domestic dispute you don't pick a side neither do you make a public judgement without the sanction of your brother. You must take us for kids if you expect us to believe that your Skelemu went to London BBC hardtalk to help resolve the Zimbabwean political impasse? Also who told you that Mugabe has turned against us? Tsvangirai and MDC? I don't think the remarks on this site fully reflects zimbabweans' detest of your leaders' antics and you also don't seem to have a clue of what you are playing with. I am livid to say the least of a broad daylight plot to starve my family and relatives on the say so of clueless neighbour who claims to know what's best for us never mind going on in our domestic dispute. On your admission, you did very little in our liberation struggle, you represent a voice of about 2 million people, you have an unelected president so where do you derive the right or on whose mandate do you scream loudest to even cause commotion in SADC? You must rest assured that if the worst is to happen to Zimbabwe don't ever dream that Botswana will be spared from it all.


Tichafanadzo inf@gmail.com
Subject: Ma1
Thu, 27 Nov 2008 13:30:00
Wat the botswana chap is doin is wat we call diarrhoea of the mouth & constipation of the brain ,people wat Ian Khama is doin is great thingz esp for the tormented people of Zim ,at least he is sendin a clear msg to Mugabe tht wat he is doin is not ok,Elsewhere the Sadc esp Kgalema ,Mbeki (Mugabe ally) shouldnt use the Mugabe made Crisis to force Tsvangi into an unhealthy ,unfavourable deal ,...These people never seems to amaze me how can some1 who lost an election still demandin a lion share ie he wants all i mean all Security ministries yet those who claim to be champion of Democracy eg Mbeki ,Kgalema etc allows him to do tht ,It just defies logic ,To Mutambara the guy has proved beyond reasonable doubt tht he is still a child in politics ,he must keep quiet and he must shun any media coverage coz he will be exposed of his inabilities in Basic simple Reasoning & Thinking


n/a n/a
Subject: Khama running scared
Thu, 27 Nov 2008 10:00:47
We are all too aware that the SADC troika has started its investigations into allegations levelled against Khama's government by Zim. What we are witnessing now is a knee-jerk reaction from a scared and guilty lot in the Tswana government. Khama is well aware that the ramifications of being found guilt by the troika run too deep to contemplate.

He knows too that Zim's allegations actually originated from the region's intelligence community and his chance of escaping being exposed are very thin. Hence his willingness to do all he can to scuttle the investigations.

The man is wishing for the worst case scenario whereby Zim is overwhelemed by foreign forces resulting in Chematama being installed the president of Zim. so that he can call off the troika's investigations. That day Mr Khama may never come. What Khama does not know is that SADC has its own unique way of handling people like him. The guy is running scared.

The true friends of Zimbabwe will not tolerate closure of thier borders with a sister country. We all know that this is a fact and Khama knows this too well. His is an infertile figment of his mind's creation which leads him astray like a headless chicken.

Zanu PF did not need Botswana during the liberation war, does not need her now and will not need Khama in the fight for 100 percent economic independence. Khama is picking a fight he hopes his european relatives will fight for him.

Progressive Zims should send one clear message to this mole and that message should read BRING IT ON MR KHAMA, WE BROOK NO INTERFERENCE IN OUR QUEST FOR ECONOMIC INDEPENDENCE.

Once we are through with him then Zim. can lead the whole region to economic independence. This my fellow Zimbabweans is what scares Brown, Bush and Blair to death.

The struggle continues. Let us keep it alive and the conquest will be ours to claim.

Pamberi nechimurenga cheupfumi hwenyika. Nyika ndeyedu iyi.


Motswana vasgudos@yahoo.com
Subject: n/a
Thu, 27 Nov 2008 09:21:55
I am going to address quite a couple of individuals here who, in the most respectable manner I can master, have found it imperative to comment (albeit in a very disrespectful way as well as gross distortion of facts concerning Batswana and the Botswana Government in general) on the above-mentioned subject.
You are alluding that Botswana did not act as a frontline state during the Ian Smith and Apartheid regimes. I may not be well versed in history but I find it really despicable for you to advance this shallow argument that has been repeated over and over again all over the internet by your likes as well as by your Information Minister (without shame, of course).

Maybe you are trying to re-write history, the history you want to believe in. But here are the facts my African brother/Sister:

Botswana, as poor as we were during those times (and we are not ashamed to admit it), clearly stated that she will not allow the liberation movements to train in Botswana and then stage attacks in their countries from Botswana. However, this was purely politics since Botswana hated both the Ian Smith and Apartheid regimes because of the untold sufferings they were causing to blacks of both Rhodesia and South Africa. That’s why ANC and Zimbabwean guerrillas continued to be accommodated (i.e fed and given shelter after finishing their trainings from Angola, Mozambique etc) in Botswana despite the great risks these actions posed to Botswana.

Now, remember that during these trying times we were one of the poorest Countries in the world (one of the 20 to be exact). We depended on grants from Britain to meet both our recurrent and developmental budgets. However, despite all these, we still sacrificed the little money that we had by contributing to the liberation struggle accounts - YOUR Struggle!, THE AFRICAN STRUGGLE!. As a result of all these various acts of brotherly love that we accorded you, we paid heavily for our own actions.

Ian Smith’s soldiers ambushed and massacred our soldiers [12] (at Lesoma, Kasane).This was and is still a painful thing for us because we had just established the Botswana Defense Force from the Police mobile unit and Smith knew that we could not defend ourselves hence this cowardly act on his part.
As if that was not enough, the South African Defense Force Commandos invaded Gaborone in search of ANC guerrillas in the1980’s. During their madness they killed the suspected ANC militants as well as Batswana. They later bragged that they told our so-called soldiers that they will becoming to raid Gaborone.

Why? Because they knew that we were poor and incapable of defending ourselves. That’s true. But we were willing to help our suffering Brothers/Sisters in Rhodesia and South Africa even though we knew that we were risking extermination by these powerful regimes.

So, please Zimbabweans you can insult us, call us all sorts of names, demean us etc its okay but remember that we paid for your struggle with our own blood even though we were the poorest souls in this planet by then. Maybe the same attitude that we had during those painful times when you were suffering is the same attitude that drives us today to speak out against the man who is supposed to be your saviuor (Mugabe) but has turned against you instead.

You do not need to say thank you! BUT at least You Can Be Respectful in Your Comments. So I implore all those who are bent on misleading the world (deliberately or not) that we are sellouts and have not cared about the Zimbabweans to go back to their history books and read them again. Besides they should ask why Robert Mugabe or ANC have not advanced the same arguments that they have. Simple! They know the sacrifices that Botswana made in the past and the prices that we paid!


togarepi mavhiyangwena tmbomv@yahoo.com
Subject: Patriot
Thu, 27 Nov 2008 07:21:23
Mavis chihure chakukanganisa musoro. Wati unevana 4 boys with different Nigerian men? Kunyange tanetseka neka nekuda vazukuru ava havatokodzeri kana kufudza mbudzi dzedu.

Khama do you really know what you are talking about? In other words you are telling us Dissidents have already held their pass out parade in BOTS ready for deployment. If that is the case fine toona masvika.

Mavis its a shame, like mother like daughter. Wakazoudwa babavako here?


Mhofeti pasizw@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Mavis Muratidzi
Wed, 26 Nov 2008 20:52:51
Mavis before you do anything more stupid don't forget Mugabe will be long gone by the time your brave boys will be mature enough to cough and cause other men to shake like reeds? Any plan B if your nigerians give you girls? Hope you didn't taunt your former zimbabwean man into proving that he is not Mugabe's wife and he's got balls in his trousers. Look lady don't waste our space with that bravery nonsense as if you have to justify your sleeping around. Who is next? Maybe an Al-Quaeda man then you cook up something like wanting a suicide bomber to kill Mugabe?


Jairos Tapfuma cdetapfuma@yahoo.com
Subject: More Goats than people...
Wed, 26 Nov 2008 20:51:41
Professor Jonathan Moyo described the Tswana leaders better...that their country suffers serious leadership deficiency because there are more goats and donkeys more than people. Zimbabwe is for Zimbabweans and not for Tswanas. Tsvangirai is wishing for bloodshed in this country and I also wish him well on that day, like what President Mugabe said on the day Chematama sees the collapse of our government.

Nowe everybody sees where we are being led. Do we now doubt the claims that there is a militia somewhere in the Okavango?


Omugabe Dziva@sanandresano.com
Subject: Look Inward & Look East for Self-development, Zim Patriots!
Wed, 26 Nov 2008 19:48:49
BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR ZIM PATRIOTS, SELF-HATING TSWANA!

The 'force out' you desire for others shall be your lot!

What goes around, comes around.

We direct your unstable attention to the present plight of the economies of your evil European masters: For years the evil Europeans sought to undermine and destroy the economies of Haiti, Cuba, Korea, Zimbabwe, Myanmar, etc.

Today Tswana and the world can see that the same evil seeds that the Europeans sowed for the economies of other nations are now bearing bitter fruits that are destroying European economies?

And note, Haiti, Cuban, Korea, Myanmar did not even have to retaliate against the European economies for them to be destroyed?
What you sow, you will surely reap, Tswana.

Foolish minds delude themselves that Magnanimous Mugabe, African Hero, is the only Zim Patriot who recognizes the need for relentless resistance to the evils coming out of Europe.

Zim Patriots are MANY!

Magnanimous Mugabe is merely ONE OF MANY Zim Patriots, who are committed to Self-determination, Self-development, Self-sufficiency and Self-reliance for ALL Africans!

We call on every awake Tswana, son of African soil, to seize the moment and 'force out' their lost leaders and European mental slaves; because Botswana is being led by evil Europeans down a very very dangerous path of its own destruction!


Bo Ska*z n/a
Subject: n/a
Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:58:11
Mavis Muratidzi you need psychiatric help, you seem to suffer from some psychotic disorder.


Changamire Dombo ChangamireDombo@rocketmail.com
Subject: Hazvinzwaro Mavis!
Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:47:56
Kuraira hakusi kushora hanzvadzi saka rava gwaro rino saizvozvo.

Vana vevakwasha havatongi mumusha mavasekuru, vaenzi vanetenge vatoshanyawo uye zvakare hativakurudzire kuita musindo kana mvonga-mupopoto pamwe nebishi nemhere-mhere mumusha medu.

Haiwa, tinovakumbira murunyararo kuti vadzokere kumusha kwaana baba vavo kunovawo kumusha kwavo kunoitwa tsika dzakafanana naidzodzo.

Mavis, takaiona hondo yeChimurenga saka uchiona kutiva kwatakaita pari zvino. Hama neshamwari dzakatsakatika zvekuti nanhasi hapana anoziva pavarere mumasango, makuva hapana akarova uyewo mweya yetsvina vazhinji havana kugezeswa saka zvekuda kuti tidzokere shure kunguva yakaisvo nyangara seiyoyo kwete asikana. Hondo hatiidiba, nyangwe MDC inodarowo.

Chinja matauriro pamwe nemaitiro Mavis.


Pachatofamunhun Chete! n/a
Subject: n/a
Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:21:21
Mavis those children you have with the thieving Nigerian men are not Zimbabweans, they are Nigerian! They are either Ibo or Hausa! Its a shame that you think that Zimbabwean men are like women like you, a cheap skirt, a horse that can be ridden by any rider as long as they have a few bob in their pocket! I hope you are quite willing to go and settle in Abuja together with your thieving boyfriends since it is a ''beautiful country with strong men''? As for Botswana, this country of weak-kneed bushmen is spoiling for a fight which it cant win. We have always said that we cant wait to give Khama a bloody nose whether he gets support from Obama, Bush, Brown or Satan himself, he cant match us. When we see the Tswana army we see girl-guides and brownies in uniform, nothing else. As they are so intent on regime change in Zimbabwe when admittedly they never allowed Zanu(PF) to operate from their country, what is it that makes them so interested in our politics when they so revile us? They should know that the feeling is mutual! It is now game set and match for war with us and all they need to do is to trigger it. They will be visited by the devil himself as we swagger around within two hours in that village called Gaberone whilst we call the shots in their country. The poofter is advised to shut up if he has nothing to say since he is unelected. As for Zimbabwean prostitutes who bear children with Nigerians, they are best advised to pack and go to that corruption ridden western vassal state that has produced more criminals than any other country in the world. Why is it that they flee from their country to come and live in a country that is under a dictatorship? If they are independent and are enjoying it why not settle in their own country? I think we need a policy review with regards to these criminals.Children born of a foreign father must take the citizenship of their father's country of origin-wo. We have the vile Olonga to learn from and not forgetting the bloody white Rhodies who are either British, American, French or whatever! What we need now is a bit of cleansing in our country to rid ourselves of this unthankful foreigners lot..


n/a n/a
Subject: Botswana
Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:11:41
Mavis Muratidzi- I have never heard such bollocks in all my life. The men and women from Zim have more guts than most. Unlike Nigeria, which negotiated its independence, the men and women of Zim fought against a mighty army ,won and liberated the country from colonialism. However, Zims are not prepared to die for anyone who wants to take the country back to colonialism in whatever form it is presented. Have you ever been to Nigeria? Some of us who have travelled widely will tell you that the country inspite of its oil riches is still not that advanced. XZimbabwe is way way advanced compared to Nigeria. Corruption is rampant and the majority of its people are very poor.Non existent sewage systems, electricity always on the brink.
If you have a Nigerian partner, good luck to you but your off-springs are going to be Nigerians and not Zimbabweans. What is it about some Zim women who now think being hitched to even a one legged, toothless old white man is thought to be the catch of the century. Slave mentality still persists here. No wonder this deluded woman thinks getting hitched to a Nigerian is her Eldorado. What bunkum!


N/A N/A
Subject: N/A
Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:21:37
Are look at the eyes of this Sikelema aka poison do you think he is his own man. He is just exhibiting table manners-list IK kicks him out.

So they are using Botswana. These Skelemus.

But Mr Sikelemu, if you go to church, read the following verses Numbers 22 the entirety of that chapter. Sikelemu, dont put a curse on Zimbabwe. Its you who will be cursed instead.


Mavis Muratidzi N/A
Subject: N/A
Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:21:50
I dont know whats wrpng with Botswana. They want to kill our people. Why do the chase Zimbabweans away from their country if they want to help? They have an army which the should use to send one sniper who can kill Mugabe since we no longer have men in Zimbabwe. All of Zimbabwe's men are Mugabe's wives thats why they cant do anything to him. The people who call themselves MEN in our country are just useless. You can see and fear in their eyes and you can smell their fear from a distance. That is why I love Nigerian men, at least they have got balls in their trousers unlike our men who shake like reeds if Mugabe coughs. Mugabe and Zanu would not have acted with impunity had their been a good breed of our men. Wait till the children we have had with Nigerians grow up and you shall see brave men again in Zimbabwe.


Mhofeti pasizw@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Skelemani on Mugabe
Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:59:07
Shame on you Mr Skelemu to even contemplate such a gruesome plan to shut all borders with Zimbabwe all because of your hatred of the person of Mugabe. Such evil and uncivilized plot on innocent citizens of a sovereign nation in the 21st century, so sorry Botswana. And to imagine all this inhumane plan unashamedly plotted in the name of advancing democracy. Is Skelemu following Odinga's idea to sell someone's bad news before asking for aid? Your evil schemes won't see the daylight in Zimbabwe because you don't have anyone in your evil corner. What democracy gives one foreign skelemu to play God with our lives?


Muvaki n/a
Subject: n/a
Wed, 26 Nov 2008 14:34:09
At it again. It is common knowledge American 5 brigade is in Bots. Do they want to start another Iraq? We dont want war. We are aggressive to no one. WHY is botswana so irate about zimbabwe? We Zimbabweans still want our leadership. Surprising how these foreigners are ranting ranting ranting!!!


Chimurenga 4 n/a
Subject: Back to 1896
Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:55:27
ITV News at 13.30 had the CHOLERA epidemci in Zim as its headlines. The reporter went into Zim undercover the same time the so-called Elders were supposed to be in Zim. The reporter now in SA said the epidemic was man-made by Mugabe and he was quite certain that the talks in SA was not going to produce anything as long as Mugabe is the president. How does he know, we may ask?

Mbuya Nehanda and Sekuru Kaguvi must resurect again, the enemy is hovering very low on Zimbabwe!


n/a n/a
Subject: Botswana
Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:51:29
This little country that has more donkeys than people is punching above its weight. Who does this Skelemani thinks he is? Ian Khama, the Botswana president is unelected. So its true then that Botswana has been training militias to carry out destabiIisation exercises in Zim.So Botswana is harbouring terrorists then. Should Zim carry out its own war on terror then as practiced by the US and UK?


NA. na.
Subject: skeleman?
Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:26:04
Skelemani eh?
Creepy by name and creepy by nature - an appropriate name but the foreigners trying to call the shots on Zimbabwe have no idea what his name actually stands for.



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