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Motormouth! • n/a
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Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:59:45 • Its shocking that some people still think Chematama Ichi is still living in the world of sane people. This guy has just lost the plot! If he thinks it is right for David Milliband to give the EU a brief on Zimbabwe in his presence, the country he has just come from and has been living in and most of all has been an active participant in shaping and bringing about the failed state it has become, whilst he keeps mum, then as a leader he is just a ZERO, ZILCH, NOTHING! He should have grasped this occasion to excel like we know Bob does but if he cannot be trusted by his handlers to give an ''accurate'' and ''incisive'' brief about the situation in the country he lives in and cedes the floor to a son of an immigrant Hungarian trying to curry favour with the British people, then MDC malcontents who support this knucklehead need to think about searching for a new leader! This one just wont do! As is obvious, the mampara wants the broken economy of his baas to be shored up by our resources, at our expense, whilst he gets the title of ''president'' just like the other blabber-mouth in Kenya who happily ridicules himself by shouting ''invasion'', ''Mugabe must go'', ''he did not win an election'', etc whilst the stench from the slums of Kibera overcomes anyone who dares cross the railway line and heads South of Nairobi! What an ''enlightened'' leadership this is that the evil West wants to impose on the children of Africa! Aiwa, kana zvarambaka, better kuedza zvimwe!
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Subject: MT
Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:45:35 • why do you want to run away from the truth ,mudhara akundikana giv Morgan a chance kana atadza we kick him out!
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Subject: What?
Wed, 10 Dec 2008 23:24:12 • Zimbabweans you forget very fast. Tsvangirayi has a right to attend any summit whether it's SADC, AU , COPA AMERICA, G8 and may more. Remember Zanu PF and Mugabe lost the elections fair and fine. It took almost 2 months before the results were made public. Frankly speaking Tsvangirayi won the elections by a wider margin. I support Tsvangirayi in what he is doing. The man doesn't even have a passport because the government wants to cage him like any african dog. It's so unfortunate that most of us think that Tsvangirayi is losing popularity. Zanu PF forces people to attend thier rallies yet they don't even allow MDC to hold even a single rally they beat and kill.They control the police, they control the army now they want to use MDC in the finance department . Tsvangirayi is right and he has my 231 million percent support. The problem with zimbabwe right now is the lack of democracy not the british and the americans. So Zanu PF should promote freedom for the opposition and the everyone in the country.
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Subject: Tsvangirai
Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:59:35 • Khoza- Your sentiments represent a minorty view in Zimbabwe. You know very well that support for MDC-T is haemorraging fast in Zimbabwe.How can you support someone who calls for sanctions against his own people? The sanctions have resulted in the deaths of thousands and made millions of Zimbabweans destitute. Your qoute that you do not mind being re-colonised says a lot about yourself. Many selfless Zimbabweans gave their lives for the freedom that you have enjoyed in the last 28 years. When black Zimbabweans really wanted their freedom, they fought for it. You want George Bush to do it for you. You seem like a coward and have a house nigger mentality to go with that. You need to de-colonialise you mind.
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Subject: KHOZA, YOU ARE RIGHT
Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:43:30 • You speak the truth and are not afraid to de so. You are the kind of men Zimbabwe need at this time. Who can deny the fact that there is no democracy in Zimbabwe? Who can deny the fact that ordinary citizens are being abducted from the home never to be seen or heard of again? Who can deny that fact that even some mebers of the Police and High Court judges are scared for their lives? Who can deny the fact that black Zimbabweans have suffured under the current government? Who can deny the fact that a complete change of government is needed? Who is stupid enough to blame Britain and America for all out problems without apportioning any blame to the so called Leaders of our country? Yes KHOZA, you are right.
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Subject: I support MT 100%
Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:30:22 • Yes Morgan is right. I support him and his diplomatic manourevours 100%. We will not accept some stupid, African tin pot dictators telling us who to associate with. When they choose to associate with the Chinese do we ever interfere in those relationships.
Dictators in Africa have this nauseating habit of thinking they own us as a people and our African countries are their private property, in which they can decree who does what. To hell to them.
MT should go wherever he wants. I just love and admire his stubbornness. He is exactly like Ian Khama, my other hero. Morgan is exactly the type of politician African dictators need. Not people like Arthur who are easily coward, over stupid allegations of sell outs, puppets and the like. When it comes to Morgan, the rest of dictators can go to hell a million times in their hundreds. They can go on shouting puppets this and that, and all we can do is to reply, we really love this puppet label, we wear it with pride - what are you then going to do about it!
I am daily hoping and praying that sense eventually dawns on the Gorge Bushes of this world, to come in and deal a decisive blow once and for all. I will have no regrets whatsoever, even if it means recolonising the country - its fine with me.
Tsvangirai needs no permission whatsoever from any quarter to visit Europe or America - and does not need to be secretive about it. The only legitimate permission he needs, one could say is from those countries he intends visiting. You can sulk, redicule him for his lack of university education all you like, nothing will change. We stand by him solidly, like a rock of ages.
We will give the west all the necessary advice, support and information to get those thugs and murderers out of power. We have no regrets, no qualms about it. You can shout till you are blue, we are not for turning. Labels, insults, redicule will never make us bend - onward you march Morgan Tsvangirayi, onward you march Seretse Ian Khama - Africa has had enough of these dastardly cruel dictators. How can you explain people who kill their own fellow blacks in thousands and are not moved at all. What type of leaders are those?
Gift Honi • gifthoni@vodamail.co.za
Subject: Morgy
Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:10:49 • Hayini Bantu, nithi lomntu utheni na.
I've seen a picture of Jonas Savimbi welcomed as the only ever rebel leader to the White House by Ronald Reagan whilst Angola was on its knees, America at the time openly aiding a criminal over a national liberation movement that enjoyed popular support of the people. For this guy without a mandate may I remind him to be welcomed and encourage enemies of Africa to impose sanctions on his own country and people says a lot about where his true interest really lie.
Zimbabweans have been through a lot and survived.
Harry • n/a
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Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:02:31 • mufesi uyu imboko, ari kutsvagei mubrussels?
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Subject: TSvangirai
Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:20:27 • Faraway- I think you are one of those die hard Rhodies who thinks that Rhodesia will make a come back. Dream on because it will never happen.
Tsvangirai no longer enjoys the support of the majority of Zimbabweans. He has promised too many pies in the sky and has failed to deliver. He has failed to get the sanctions lifted and all he has to offer the suffering Zims is more sanctions that he is currently negotiating with his handlers.He has returned from Europe empty handed and with only promises of aid and nothing tangible.
The guy is uneducated, out of his league in world affairs, a ditherer, has no leadership skills and no charisma.
He likes to spend more time consulting with the same people ( from the US,UK, EU) who napalmed us, subjected us to biological warfare, maimed us, carpet bombed us and hung us in Salisbury prison and imprisoned us all because we wanted our dignity/freedoms back. Is Tsvangirai crazy or has the lure of fine wines, cavier and private jets gone to his head? He has no time to consult with us mere mortals in Zimbabwe where he has unleashed his Weapons of Mass Destruction in the form of sanctions he begged the US,EU and UK to impose on us.He has ensured that his own family are out of Zimbabwe and enjoying the life of riley in Australia, South Africa and Botswana and only read about the sanctions affecting the majority of Zims from the sanctuary of their palatial mansions and not actually experience them. When it comes to self-preservation, the Houdini of Zimbabwe politics looks after numero 1 and does his famous disappearing act either to the Dutch Embassy or by gallavanting to the West.The MDC-T party in Zimbabwe is currently leaderless and supporters have been left to swim or sink. The economic war raging in Zimbabwe was started by Tsvangirai and his MDC-T party when they called for the imposition of sanctions to destabilise the country and sabotage the Zim economy. That is Tsvangirai for you. He is the problem and NOT THE SOLUTION. The world should know that it is Tsvangirai who has made us Zimbabweans destitute by his invition of foreign govts to impose sanctions that have restricted what the Zim govt can do to assist its citizens. As a result of the US,EU and UK imposed sanctions, Zim has no balance of payment support, no access to lines of credit and has been denied development aid . The US, UK and EU have blocked all sources of finance for Zimbabwe . So Zimbabwe cannot borrow any money from any International Financial institutions because any such applications for credit/loans by Zimbabwen govt are vetoed by the US, UK and the EU. Trade sanctions have also been imposed whIch means companies in Zimbabwe which were raising foreign currency by selling Zim metals can no longer do so because they have been put on the sanction list. So who is the culprit who has caused the humanitarian crisis and the economic implosion in Zimbabwe? Is it the Zim govt failed economic policies or is it the West who have precipitated the humanitarian crisis and economic implosion by their sanctions that they have sold to the gullible public as travel bans and asset freezes. It is pure and simple propaganda that the sanctions are targeted at the elite. The sanctions are targeted at the general populace of Zimbabwe with the sole purpose of making our lives so destitute that we will rise up and overthrow the current govt. Now that this strategy using economic warfare appears to falter, the US, EU and UK are now talking up a physical war with all this rhetoric about regime change.
We Zimbabweans do not want a war. We want a peaceful resolution to our problems. Why has Zimbabwe been hardly out of the Western press headlines for the past ten years? Are we being used as pawns in a fight for strategic resources in the Sub-Sahara region between the West and China? Are we witnessing a new partition of Africa at our doorstep? This does not look like a fight for democracy where the electorate is first made destitute and forced to vote for an outcome that meets the West's approval. That is not a free and fair election, is it?
Salsa Ravinksy • salsa1941@live.com
Subject: In All Fairness
Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:30:32 • As a PM to be, Morgan T has been humiliated by the ruling party, deliberatly denied a passport, mention a few. With all respect to commentaries above, and without justifying Morgan's travels as such, I think we need to comment in context.
We have in our country an atmosphere that does not tolerate dissenting views to the ruling party. There is no respect for political parties that challenge Zanu-PF, let alone those who lead them. As a result, many of us could resort to (for the past thirty years...and myself included) is just to make comments on the paper from our hiding (despite being so highly educated than Morgan T (so we think); but other none of us are willing to step up to the hot leadership plate in Zimbabwe - why, because we know soon we will be involved those Mugabe sponsored, mysterious car accidents, if not in daylight cold blood.
For thirty years, whoever has emerged as a challenger to the system, has been put to the gallows. So what do you expect Morgan T to do? My take is that, desperate as he may seem, at least he is trying to have a genuine democracy restored in Zimbabwe. What use is it to have a fake government such as we have been having so far?
Where is our pride as a country if we cannot respect life? A couple of millions of Zimabweans have fled to other countries - educated as they were, and have done little in terms of restoring democracy of Zimbabwe, except inserting negative commentaries on those who are trying yet being bullied by the ruling Zanu-PF.
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Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:58:59 • Jesus Christ is the rock of our salvation. He is the Prince of Peace and he is coming soon. Zimbabweans, his love calls and warns you to prepare for his coming.
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Subject: Tsvangirai
Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:48:24 • Chagamire Dombo- You have hit the nail on the head.Does Tsvangirai really understand the issues discussed when he attends these meetings with the EU foreign Ministers? His educational background is very poor, primary education and certificate of attendance at the Harvard School of Adminstration.I will not be surprised that the same EU foreign ministers are laughing behind this back because in Tsvangirai, they have found someone malleable and easy to manipulate.Can't Tsvangirai get it that he is being used to fight imperialist wars for the West.Tsvangirai should remember the history of people like him who have been used to overthrow legitimate govts and have been disposed of when they reached their end of shelf life. Idi Amin was installed by the British in Uganda. Mobutu was installed by the Americans and British in DRC Congo. The Shah of Iran and Saddam (Iraq) are also examples of people who were installed by the same forces. All these leaders were disposed of when they were no longer fit for purpose. The US has permanent interests and not permanent friends.
Tsvangirai is playing with the big boys now but history should teach him that he will be spat out when he is no longer useful to them.
Why is he globe trotting and not staying in Zimbabwe and find local solutions for local problems. Tsvangirai and his MDC-T are fast losing support in Zimbabwe and if an election were to be held today, he will lose resoundingly because Zimbabweans are fed up with his flip-flops, his lack of leadership, his lack of empathy for the suffering Zimbabweans and his incessant calls for more sanctions that have made us Zimbabweans destitute. Tsvangirai has shown that he is only interested in serving the West's interests. Tsvangirai Go now because you are a failed, failed politician and have no solutions whatsoever for Zimbabwean problems. All he can do is ask for more sanctions and then sit back and enjoy our suffering.Is Tsvangirai a Sadist?
Isaac Bwoni • ibwoni@gmail.com
Subject: Oh God!
Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:09:02 • Yes, oh God. Why should we trust man, when God is there? Why should we trust Morgan Tsvangirai to consult the very former murderers of black people in Zimbabwe when SADC is there? This guys is just dangerous. He can not do anything without consulting Europe. hohoho....Africa, now you see for yourself!
Binny Man • bnoks2006@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: WEIRD WEIRD WORLD ISN'T IT
Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:46:50 • I thought if there is any consultation to be done has to be done by us Zimbabweans ourselves. Just what to hel has gone wrong with our political leaders this time around. They do not cease to make fools out of themselves.
What good do these NICE SANCTIONS bring to a country that is now on its knees. Just wait for the ELECTION TIME MORGY that you seem to be advocating for and see the result. I do not wish to think that I wasted my vote for voting for you.
Binny Man • bnoks2006@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: WEIRD WIERD WORLD ISN'T IT
Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:36:55 • I thought if there is any consultation to be done has to be done by us Zimbabweans ourselves. Just what to hel has gone wrong with our political leaders this time around. They do not cease to make fools out of themselves.
What good do these NICE SANCTIONS bring to a country that is now on its knees. Just wait for the ELECTION TIME MORGY that you seem to be advocating for and see the result. I do not wish to think that I wasted my vote for voting for you.
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Subject: Sanctions
Tue, 09 Dec 2008 12:46:41 • Tsvangirai has now joined that exclusive class of the very rich and famous by having at his disposal a private jet (courtesy of Ian Khama of Botswana) to fly him to his favoured Western destinations. No more business or economy class flights for this guy from rural Buhera. It's all cavier and champagne all the way. Now on a serious note, what was Tsvangirai and his MDC-T officials doing in Brussels? They were engaging in their favourite past-time of drawing up sanctions lists for the EU, UK and US and asking these countries to increase the breadth of the sanctions against Zimbabwe. Tsvangirai and his MDC-T are fully aware that it is the sanctions that have led to the impoverishment of millions of Zimbabweans and to the deaths of thousands of Zimbabweans due to lack of medication and food. How can Tsvangirai who is pretending to carry the mantle for the upholding of human rights even dream of calling for more sanctions . Tsvangirai is/has participated in the GENOCIDE of the Zimbabwean people by his calling for/support of sanctions imposed by the US/UK and EU on Zimbabwe. Are we seeing the making of the Butcher from Buhera here? How can Tsvangirai get on the world stage and cry crocodile tears for the suffering Zimbabweans when it is by his own actions and that of his party MDC-T that a humanitarian crisis has been precipitated in Zimbabwe. Tsvangirai and the West know very well that the sanctions imposed on Zim do not affect the elites of Zanu-PF and MDC-T for that matter. Who of the elites has to contend with the ravages of inflation, cholera, food shortages, unemployment and lack of medicine/medical faciities?How many of the eites are unable to bury their dead, are unable to pay school fees for their children and are unable access medication and are facing starvation? The answer is none. So when Tsvangirai/MDC-T ask the West (US,EU,UK) to impose more sanctions on Zimbabwe, they are fully aware that it is the ordinary Zimbabwean living in Mbare, Budiriro, Chitungwiza etc who is being affected adversely by these sanctions.Are the West and Tsvangirai deliberately inducing poverty in Zimbabwe so that living conditions deteriorate to such an extent that the natives will rise up and throw out the incubent govt? Is this not the making of a silent genocide against the Zimbabwean people? Tsvangirai and the West are well versed in the fact that the Zim govt has no balance of payment support and no access to lines of credit and has been denied development aid as a result of these sanctions.If the West and Tsvangirai had not imposed sanctions on Zim, Zimbabweans would rightly put all the blame for current problems on the shoulders of incumbent govt. However, the imposition of sanctions has muddied the waters and the blame lies now squarely with the West which by its actions has crippled the economy and made the majority of us Zimbabweans destitute.
How can any sane individual cause untold suffering to his own people in order to get into power.
Tsvangirai has now got blood on his hands.
Tsvangirai always favours the option of other people shedding their blood for his cause but not himself. Remember it is the same Tsvangirai who ran away from the liberation struggle citing that he had
family to look after.When he thought his own life was in danger in June, 2007, he ran away and hid in the Dutch Embassy and left his followers to swing in the wind.
He is calling for more sanctions now after ensuring that his own family are out of harm's way and will not suffer the consequences as they no longer live in Zimbabwe. Is this the kind of leadership Zimbabweans want? Selfish and cowardly?
This Raila Odinga of Zimbabwe is not a democrat . If Tsvangirai gets the Prime Minister's post, I hope he will realise it has been obtained at the expense of millions of Zimbabweans deaths due to the effects of the sanctions that he alone called for.
As for his briefing of the EU foreign Ministers on the cholera epidemic, this guy must be on something much stronger than cra--. He has not set foot in Zimbabwe for almost a month. He seems to be permanently exiled in Botswana and South Africa. How can Tsvangirai brief these people about the cholera epidemic when he has not been in Zimbabwe for sometime? Tsvangirai has all the time to meet with the West but has not time to meet Zanu-PF and MDC-M to resolve the impasse. Whose interests is he serving? The West's or Zimbabwe's? As some contributors have stated on this site, Tsvangirai is not interested in the mediation efforts of Sadc or the AU.His ultimate goal is to have Zimbabwe put on the UN agenda. Tsvangirai has been instructed to stall the inclusive govt talks and wait for inauguration of the next US president Obama because the US, UK and EU have thrown diplomacy to the wind and have now openly called for regime change . The usual suspects of praise singers such as Tutu, Sentamu, Raila Odinga and Ian Khama have been roped in to sing in synchronised fashion regime change! regime change! The African praise singers have been roped in to give the project an African authenticity/approval and religious gravitas. My foot.
The Elders Annan, Machel and Carter have all been wheeled out to also relay the orchestrated message and add wisdom, internationalism and liberation credentials to the project. What a travesty?
The powers behind the throne (of MDC-T) i.e. the US (via Condoleezza Rice), UK (via Brown and Miliband) and EU (Sarkozy) have all made their pronouncements on regime change.The words uttered by all these players are the same. Are they using the same script or are they singing from the same hym book? Strange! That Zimbabwe will be put once again on the UN agenda is no longer a matter of if but when.The Obama presidency will have Hilary Clinton (one of the architects of the Zidera Act, 2001) as US Secretary of State and Susan Rice (a known anti Zanu-PF) as US represenative at the UN. I am sure Obama would like to make Zimbabwe his first US foreign policy success by effecting regime change and satisfy the demands of one of his backers Soros and prove to the establishment that runs the US presidency that he is on message and can be trusted to safeguard US interests first and foremost at the expense of the Zmbabweans. Change indeed! What a farce! Our very own Tsvangirai is in the wings waiting for this to happen. That is why Biti could not attend a recent Sadc meeting on Zimbabwe because he had travelled to the US to be briefed by the MDC-T masters for this scenario.
Zim patriots be warned.
Changamire Dombo • ChangamireDombo@rocketmail.com
Subject: The Capacity.
Tue, 09 Dec 2008 11:09:04 • Fair enough, MT can globetrot all he likes but given his educational background one wonders whether he can fully grasp the issues being discussed in his presence.
The ball is in your court!
Aluta continua.
masvingo • drmugwira@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Tsvangirai in brussels
Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:43:02 • It is high time for us the people of zimbwe to choose a new leader in MDC.Tsvangirai lacks leadership ,how long is he going to take the people of Zimbabwe for a ride?Tsvangirai has no focuss at all why is he changing goal posts everyday?akafanana nemurume anotongerwa mukadzi kana musha wake nana Tete. I wish Learnmore Jongwe was still alive to give us hope.Tsvangirai uneushingi hauna Leadership.CHIBVA TIISE MUMWE UNGANGOVA MUMWE ACHADAKUFIRA PACHIGARO CHOKUTONGA.
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Subject: Chinja
Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:32:00 • I have posted so many artcles in support of the MDC then MDC-T. I still hope the party's intetion has been good for Zimbabwe but some how the leadership has diverted to focus on useless agendas which may kill this party sooner or later.
Now that zanu is calling for fresh elections. Our leader is moving from one EU country to another. Will it be possible to convince that rural folk again on links with UK and America.
I can not print my name here but all I can say is, I am having doubts and a change of mind. Voting again? I think Simba is a better horse now.
Call me a sellout. Tsvangirai will not take us anywhere as I see it. Too much posture changing.
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Subject: Morgan fully deserves to lead Zimbabwe out of the abbyss.
Tue, 09 Dec 2008 10:24:20 • Morgan's international lobbying efforts are remarkable. Here is a man on an amazing mission to save the people of Zimbabwe from total collapse.
He fully deserves to lead the country out of the abyss.
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