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Mhofeti • pasizw@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Mothlanthe criticizes UK over Zimbabwe Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:00:18 • Guys do you remember what some of us were saying looking ahead after Thabo Mbeki was recalled by his party? Already some are calling for Zuma after Mothlanthe disappointed them again by being soft with Mugabe. When Zuma comes they will also want him off for not being hard enough. Anyway enough of that, can someone help me understand the popular MDC statement .... the people spoke on 29th March? To clarify matters, how do you reconcile what the people so spoke about on 29th March with what the current constitution says?
starchild • seagul@quicknet.ch Subject: FreeZimbab Sat, 20 Dec 2008 19:40:08 • The era of British surrogate regimes in Amanda should've been long eradicated in the 20 th century. The western world (media) is an interlectual gang of frauds.Sanctions are an act of war. A socialist revolutionary movement is needed in Zim- as in Cuba.
wiseman 1 • Chinono@idyauchifamba.zwe Subject: 1 to 1 Sat, 20 Dec 2008 12:50:48 • the problem we faced was the exchange rate. Tingadai takashandisa mayusa kare to bring our econoimy to interantional levels. Kana vaida mombe vaingotenga nemayusawo kwete vaichinji maZim$ se matishu and then they overun the country. Behind the use of the US$ we could then have built a strong economy. Excahange was supposed then to have brought upo to 1 as to1. All the people should have been paid in the US$s.
But A fwe people who had the US$ before the crisis thought it was classy and prestigious to see other Zimbas without anything. If zimbas love one another there would not be any problems. the problems is that mazimba do not love each other. Vanosekana all the time. Varimu power vanoseka the powerless etc.
Vusi • sawubona97@gmail.com Subject: Our salvation will come when europe has no link with us. Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:33:05 • African's with low self-esteem, slave mentality and the inability to see things as they are should not be talking.
Western Europe has shown us more than once that as long as we do not kick it out of our lives it will be there like a virus to destroy us.
The solution for those evil countries that for centuries enslaved us, raped us, destroy everything that was Africans is to cut all ties with them.
We do not get anything from them free and the reason they are roaming Africa like a mad virus is because they benefit more from us than we do from them, therefore the solution is to suspend all ties with them.
Any African person who opposes suspending ties with Western Europe is a person who is blinded by the impression they created in millions of our people that Africa will die without them.
Everything we currently need from them is also manufactured in Asia and we can get it there until we start manufacture them ourselves.
Our salvation lie with our ability to make sure Europe has no ability to meddle in Africa. We must make sure the people view them as the devils they truly are.
Africa's problem were created by Europeans only when Europeans domination of Africa has been crashed only then we will start living again.
Zimbabwe massive • zimbabwelive@aol.com Subject: Asi Chiyi Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:15:38 • All the choruses of praise are misguided. Look the truth is you want the west to leave us alone but messe murikuda mayusa. You want aid, come on. We need new blood in Zanu PF to lead our country.
Forget Tsvangirai, he does not have the charisma of a leader and his situation will never work in Zimbabwe.
Let`s keep the Zimbabwean ideology, but do not close of foreigners, you have to be stupid to carry on waging war with the communities that hold global purse strings.
Bring these companies back, tax them fairly and that tax should benefit those communities, if you don`t agree with that, please read some basic economic books.
Keep the movement going true Zimbabweans but don`t be stupid about it.
Vusi • sawubona97@gmail.com Subject: Omugabe you are the man Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:30:36 • Omugabe, your post made me proud. i love to read from brothers who have a deep understanding of reality and history.
You made me proud. President Mugabe is our messiah and any threat against him is a threat against our entire race. i will do all in my power to change the name of a city in the part of Africa i am from to president Mugabe city.
President Mugabe is like the father of Africa, he gave life back to millions of our brothers in Zimbabwe when he freed Zimbabwe and gave life back to our race when he freed our brother’s land in Zimbabwe and stood strong in the face of the ruthless Western Europe terrorism against Zimbabwe and Africa.
Zimbabwe will never fall in the hands of those devilish pink countries of hell.
President Mugabe i beg you to cut all ties with Western Europe and to list Tsangirai as a puppet of our worse nightmare the Europeans governments;’ therefore an enemy combatant.
I thank President Mugabe for making me proud and making the millions of our people proud.
We know the pain our brothers in Zimbabwe are witnessing is the result of those racist and terrorist western Europeans governments’ devilish agenda against our race.
We have to increase awareness and turn the focus of our people worldwide on that devilish entity.
Omugabe • Dziva@sanandresano.com Subject: Look Inward & Look East for Self-development, Zim Patriots! Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:36:32 • Form an even cursory look at the history of the European and their behavior, it is clear that the beastly brits and their apologists understands ONLY physical force. They MUST get their arse kicked for them to, 'Back up'!
Creatures who have repeatedly demonstrated by their beast behavior, to be without basic human virtue, CANNOT be expected to act human, to act rational. And so it is with the evil Europeans and their destructive history of beast behavior.
The evil Europeans are merely modern versions of the Neanderthals. And like lowly creatures snakes and crocodiles, that have grabbed a hold on loot, the Europeans have to be hit on the head, hit hard and hit repeatedly with sufficient physical force, before they will be made to surrender and stay away from things African.
Long live Zim Patriots to apply the hit on the heads of the European snakes; so they will surrender and stay away from things African.
Zim Patriots CANNOT and WILL NOT relent; because to surrender to the domination of evil beings will only result in African adopting the virtueless, lowly and destructive nature of the beastly Europeans.
Vusi • sawubona97@gmail.com Subject: Motlante too soft with racist imperialist Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:36:30 • Motlanthe is acting as if he forgot what Britain and western Europeans countries are all about
Motlanthe Must be very aggressive in defending Zimbabwe and president Mugabe because the pink man will never want an African nation to live free from it domination.
After what the African people endured in the hands of Europeans, Africans were suppose to be extremely allergic to Europe meddling or presence and not allow even the slightest meddling of Europe in Africa.
i suggest Africa list western Europe as a major threat to our freedom, our way of life, our culture and dignity. i suggest we ban western Europe from the continent and switch to friendly countries in the east as our partners in business.
Please Africa do not let the devil to get us again.
n/a • n/a Subject: Zim Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:35:57 • Faraway- The people did not speak on the March 29th elections. The result was a hung parliament and no outright winner for the presidential elections. You can fool some people all the time but you can't fool all the people all the time.When we see that Soros is driving the political process in Zim, we are bound to ask questions why and for whose benefit.It is people like you who need to be shaken out of your slumber for not recognising that people like Soros, Brown and their allies have their own agendas totally divorced from what the majority of Zimbabweans want.
Faraway • zim.crisis@gmail.com Subject: Wake up please Mr Mothlanthe! Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:08:02 • Somebody please shake Mr Mothlanthe out of his slumber. Maybe that will bring him to his senses. The people spoke on March 29. What other cues does he need?
N/a • n/a Subject: n/a Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:06:27 • Britain should be told to leave Zim alone. they are in Europe we are in africa.
We had our elections and we voted the person we wanted robert. their candidate chickened out from the final election. so who is to fault?
Keep quet you voices of imperialisim.
n/a • n/a Subject: Cues? Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:31:14 • Malick Pape,Tichafa and Mr president sir-The March 29 elections you are going on about resulted in a hung parliament with 100 seats for MDC-T, 99 seats for Zanu-PF and 10 seats for MDC-M. This is what is called a hung parliament and in no way or form reflects that the people voted for MDC-T to take over the mantle. For the presidential race, neither President Mugabe nor Tsvangirai garnered the necessary 50% 1 votes required and a run off was set for June 21st. Tsvangirai ran away and the result is for all to see. In the March election 45% of the electorate voted for Zanu-PF and 43% voted for MDC-T. This indicates a political polarisation in the country. The best way forward for the country is an inclusive govt where all political opinions are catered for. Do not mislead people by lying that the whole country is behind MDC-T because that is not true and you know it. Remember in the 70s Smith was informing the whole world that he had the happiest Africans in Zimbabwe but he could not comprehend what hit him when the same happy Africans turned on him.You are also propagating the same falsehood that the whole country is behind MDC-T when it clearly is not the case. In Zim, the issue of land is a very emotive subject.If a party like MDC-T comes in and tries to reverse the land reforms, one does not need a crystal ball to appreciate that the outcome will be a civil war.Some of you who are making comments here have never been to Zim for donkey years and do not appreciate the depth of feelings on the ground. Remember Iraq, it was some of the Iraqis who were also feeding the international community false stories that about weapons of mass destruction.It is a well known fact that some Zims are being paid money to write anti--Zims stories. We should all be careful what we wish for because the outcome might turn out to be a false dawn.Surely as Zimbabweans, it is better for all of us to agitate for peace instead of conflict and to agitate for development instead of destruction.The South African President is trying to find a peaceful way out of the conflict. Instead of listening to warmongers, it is best to give peace a chance. We all know the horrors of war.Which one of you wants to see you family, friends etc killed and for what? Give peace a chance.
Hamadziripi Simbaneuta • hsimbaneuta@yahoo.co.uk Subject: South Africa has to resign from Mediating position. Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:26:12 • South Africa has to remove themselves from mediating position because they are being partisan.Everyone knows that Botswana supports MDC and they never wished to be mediators .But South Africa wants to be playing football at the same time referee the game, it does not work because you end up being biased.
They can continue to give their support to Zanu Pf and no one will be worried , but the problem comes when they want to be the mediator at the same time being partisan.
This has taken long because of the South African government confusion . Because they dont know what they are concerning this case and Mugabe is enjoying that to the maximum.
So I am pleading with South African government that you can continue wearing your Zanu Pf's Tshirt but please resign yourself from mediating.
If you do that , something positive will come out of these talks.
I thank you in advance for just doing that.
Maku Jera • makuj@hotmail.com Subject: mr president sir! Thu, 18 Dec 2008 10:02:53 • mr president sir! what did zimbabwean voters say on March 29? Please tell us and do so honestly. Vakataura kuti kudii? I suspect what you are driving at. They said something in the Lower House and in the presidential yes?
But what did the same people say in the Upper House? Also what did they say on June 27?
In addition to what the voters said, tell us what the law says!
mr president sir! • n/a Subject: mr president sir! Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:06:04 • It's really not for us. I mean I don't know if the British feel qualified to impose that on the people of Zimbabwe, but we feel that we should support and take our cue from what they [Zimbabweans] want,
The people of Zimbabwe spoke (29 March 2008)... what other voice will make you hear them. Do you want blood to spill for you to listen and take your cue. Let them know what sort of medium apart from the ballot will you listen to!
Tichafa • tichafa@yahoo.com Subject: Kgalema Thu, 18 Dec 2008 06:09:11 • People please open your eyes and see this so called unelected president of South Africa is tryin to revamp ,rejuvinate and revive the old , torn and rejected Zanu Pf party ,we dont need tht assistance wc he is advocating ,what we want is govt for the people ,of the people and by the people ,.To Kgalema ,mbeki ,Dumisami Khumalo pliz zip your mouth on the crisis bedivilin Zimbabwe ,who doesnt know tht South Africa at large is benefittin becoz of the Crisis in Zim but History will judge you harshly ie Mbeki ,Kgalema ,Khumalo ,Lastly please Zip your mouth ...
Malick Pape • malick82@yahoo.com Subject: what cues? Thu, 18 Dec 2008 05:49:08 • What cues is motlanhe talking about here? Did we not show the world what we wanted by voting for Tsvangirayi! It was Mbeki and his other bunch of cowards who sought to play down our victory in a bid to protect liberation brotherhood ties.
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