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kayceedunn • kayceedunn@yahoo.com
Subject: friendship
Mon, 12 Jan 2009 02:05:25 • hushamwari haupedzwe nekuti ivhu rakanga rakabvutwa rakadzoswa kuvaridzi varo.pakatogara pasinahushamwari apa.dai vaiveshamwari,vaitenge vasina kupamba nyika yedu.
i do not support any of the current political parties ,therefore i do not reason on a political level as you know that zanu pf is holding on to power at the expense of poor black people and at the same time MDC is refusing to join the unity gov to save their political party, both of them fully knowing the impact of their selfishness on ordinary poor people's day to day lives.
you hear the ignorant ones rant,we dont want to end up like zapu and they dont realise the love of joshua nkomo who united for the sake of his tribesman who were being butchered by selfishmen.
as a youngman,i see what an afrikan father should be like in joshua nkomo .they say you can steal the fruit not the root and you cant hide the truth from the youths.
kayceedunn • kayceedunn@yahoo.com
Subject: permanant friends
Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:18:51 • yes mafirakureva,all i'm saying is that these europians have their permanant interests in other people's teritories .it wouldn't matter if their interests were somewhere else not mamma afrika,,,,its MINE and YOURS for the benefit of our future generations.
you've got to love yourself before you love someone else.
self guard,yeah?
Mafirekureva • na
Subject: kayceedunn
Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:31:23 • kayceedunn, are you serious or this is your way of saying you do not agree with the genral thrust of my contribution? If the answer is the later, then its ok because we do not always have to agree. If the answer is the former, in brief I am saying the idea of permanent enemies or friends is a non-starter, to be progressive you must have permanent interests and your friends are those who help you address your permanent interests at that particular time. The Chinese and Russian examples serve to illustrate my point.
Hope you got it this time.
kayceedunn • kayceedunn@yahoo.com
Subject: mafirakuda kureva
Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:14:33 • what are you exactly saying here?
kayceedunn • kayceedunn@yahoo.com
Subject: mafirakura kureva
Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:13:34 • what are you exactly saying here?
In Mugabe We trust • sawubona97@gmail.com
Subject: Viva Omugabe
Wed, 07 Jan 2009 06:19:42 • Omugabe, my brother i 100% agree with you. thank you for your educational and inspiring words.
you are the man.
viva Omugabe, viva.
Mafirekureva • na
Subject: Permanent friends or interests?
Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:55:32 • First, big up to this website, what a mixed bag! That is fine, thats humanity at its best.
Very interesting indeed. Here we have people wallowing in their hatred of permanent enemies such that they will never move on with their lives. White/Black, East/West, shame, history is history and the so called East/West protagonists have moved on in pursuit of their national interests while those with shallow minds want to continue wallowing in the glory of the Cold War! I have said this before and I will repeat it here, you cannot run well if you are for ever looking over your shoulder, you will not see the obstacles in your path! Your interest must be your guiding principle, friends can let you down, they can become enemies overnight but your interests are permanent! Inga kunema divorces wani for the most intimate human relationship? The same goes for countries. Get that into your heads. That is the principle on which great nations are made. That’s is why some people commit murder/suicide when jilted by lovers, their thinking is upside down like some of us here! Kana asisade haidi, move on, get a life!
Plus kana makubatabata history, get your issues right, munozoshaya kwekunyarira…
Fact: Today China's biggest trading partner is the USA, yesterday they were sworn enemies but today they consider their permanent national interests and see that they have more to gain by cooperating than by being enemies for ever. They still have strong ideological differences but for the sake of their permanent national interests they cooperate.
You can look East to China while China itself is looking West to USA, no problem, you will be looking to USA via China and China will hand to you the drags of its relationship with the USA/West! China's mentor of a few decades ago Russia is now closer to the USA ideologically than to China. Russia has become a renowned capitalist with more billionaires than the USA. Russia trades more with Europe than China. Yes, look east to Russia while Russia looks west to Europe, you know what happens, you get leftovers after the Russians have had their fill, silly! Why can you not look to yourself and forge mutually beneficial relationships with others instead of wallowing in your hatred? The Chinese and the Russians laugh at you my friends, as ignorant as ever, you have not learnt anything from the past which you so much love. So much for permanent friends! Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha!!
At least your hero Museveni has some common sense, here is what he says about a dimension of the Africans - West relationship, on the specific issue of U.S. reparations for slavery and colonialism, Museveni told the Los Angeles Times, I don't waste much time crying over spilt milk, because Africans are also to blame in a way. They were weak. They were not well-organized. African chiefs were the ones who were selling people into slavery, because of their shallowness. They were backward. They didn't understand what was happening in the world. They didn't understand their wider interests. . . . African weakness is what permitted the Europeans to exploit us, and [this] weakness must be solved. Now that we are back in control of our destinies, let us strengthen ourselves instead of remaining weak. Foolish people are always exploited. Let's start afresh now. Even African Americans should build themselves . . . instead of just sitting there in the slums and saying the whites brought us here. . . . Of course, the whites should also be Christian, not take advantage.
Ndareva sezita rangu!
Zimbabwe massive • zimbabwelive@aol.com
Subject: Kayceedunn
Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:24:36 • Fantastic contribution my fellow country man, if only you could pass on such articulate genius to the likes of Omugabe!
Nice one Mr Editor, lets get more of this stuff on the forum.
Omugabe • Dziva@sanandresano.com
Subject: Look Inward & Look East for Self-development, Zim Patriots!
Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:35:13 • Ban Omugabe?
Ha ha ha! lol
Considering that Africans ARE NEVER EVER afraid of mere words, those who feel uncomfortable with the historical truths expounded by Omugabe are of a eurocentric mentality.
That is; the detractors are either evil europeans themselves; or they are mentally enslaved to defend, promote and apologize for the racist enemies of Africans.
Those who would defend, promote and apologize for their KNOWN enemies are masochist who love pain for themselves and for others.
Those who can't see 'white vs Black' are living in denial and do not know the mind of the relentless and racist enemies of Africans.
If your evil European enemies historically think and behave in terms of 'Black and white', then you will be a fool to not acknowledge your enemies' thinking and beast behavior; so that you may counter them.
When Africa was been carved up by the white gangs a the so-called berlin conference, Africa was been carved by racists for racists!
And since that berlin conference, and before, the evil europeans have never surrendered their anti-African racism towards the Continent.
In Mugabe We trust • sawubona97@gmail.com
Subject: Viva zimbabwe
Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:12:08 • Pink (also illegally known as white) countries are guilty of terrorism in the world.
they want to maintain the UN as a tool for their agenda of pain distribution and terrorism in the world
centuries of terrorism against the African people didn't fill their oppression hungry brains and they still want more.
Zimbabwe will not surrendet to devilish countries with evil as a culture no matter what.
the UN must be democratize or we will all leave that UN to pink countries so that they can rule themselves.
Sekai • na
Subject: No to distorted history
Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:47:57 • Motormouth do not distort history: Museveni was trained by Frelimo in Mozambique and by the Nyerere government in Tanzania! Where does Zanla and Mugabe come in? Perhaphs you mean his insistency to go for a third term (even though he had promised to quit after the second term) against all advice and then going on to win controversially as has become the trend with Mugabe and Zanu PF? See facts below;
On 17 November 2005, Museveni was chosen as NRMs presidential candidate for the February 2006 elections. His candidacy for a further third term sparked criticism, as he had promised in 2001 that he was contesting for the last term. The arrest of the main opposition leader Kizza Besigye on 14 November – charged with treason, concealment of treason and rape – sparked demonstrations and riots in Kampala and other towns. Museveni's bid for a third term, the arrest of Besigye, and the besiegement of the High Court during a hearing of Besigye's case (by a heavily armed Military Intelligence (CMI) group dubbed by the press as Black Mambas Urban Hit Squad), led Sweden, the Netherlands and the United Kingdom to withhold economic support to Museveni's government due to concerns about the country's democratic development. On 2 January 2006 Besigye was released after the High Court ordered his immediate release.
The 23 February 2006 elections were Uganda's first multi-party elections in 25 years, and was seen as a test of its democratic credentials. Although Museveni did less well than in the previous election, he was elected for another five-year tenure, having won 59% of the vote against Besigye's 37%. Besigye, who alleged fraud, rejected the result. The Supreme Court of Uganda later ruled that the election was marred by intimidation, violence, voter disenfranchisement, and other irregularities. However, the Court voted 4-3 to uphold the results of the election.
Sekai • na
Subject: West/white
Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:44:55 • Zimbabwe massive, Omugabe and Motormouth are very sick racists (yes, like Mugabe himself) and do not contribute much to debate on substantive issues except insults. They see white and black everywhere even when it’s obvious that the issue at stake is POWER (ironically, people who see everything in black and white are supposed to be colour blind…). There are good white people and bad white people, just like there are good black people and bad black people, skin colour is coincidental. But that is allowed, let them show the rest of the world their colours. Also, I would not support blocking their contributions, it is their right as long as they do not really become reckless with their language, let them speak.
What never ceases to amaze me is that without fail, these anti west/white blacks love the ways of the white man very much. See how Mugabe squealed when the targeted sanctions stopped his shopping forays and holidays to the white man’s cities, see how he dresses, see how he cannot avoid the Queen’s language even when addressing villagers in Uzumba, see how he sent his late first wife (bless her soul) for safe keeping in the UK instead of Tanzania or China or Russia during the liberation war, see how they pay an arm and a leg (including looting the national coffers) to send their children to get western/white education while avoiding even the free education (through scholarships) offered by their eastern allies, see how Mugabe’s hangers on like Mnangagwa and Gono screamed when Australia sent their kids packing, see how Mugabe opens parliament vintage Rolls Royce, horsemen and all, you would think you are in UK!, see how their wives, girlfriends and daughters use dangerous skin and hair chemicals to resemble the white women as much as possible, see how over 90% of them spew their “hatred” of the west/whites from the comfort of the very same western/white cities!!, see how they privately rejoice when they dump their black spouses and girlfriends for white women??? The hatred comes from envy and the fact that no matter how they try to imitate the whites in everything they will never be real whites. Believe me, I personally know a lot of these guys and I am surprised they have not yet read the meaning of my chuckle when they go to town berating the west/whites. We visited one of them at his “acquired” farm and he went on and on about the evils of the west/whites. After one too many (beer) he started showing us videos and photos, boasting about how his whole family (wife, five grown up children and three grandchildren) were doing so well in the UK! On departing from his farm, I drove for about a kilometre, stopped the car and laughed my lungs out. My brother thought I was going mental until I explained the sick irony of it all.
I just thought I should say this so that we really take a critical look at some of these people, you will actually feel sorry for them. They have an identity crisis, they hate being black but want to be white (genetically not possible) hence the envy turned racism. Ndatsika konzi ka?? (Have I said painful truths??) Watch as they let loose on me…
Proudly colour blind blackman.
Motormouth • n/a
Subject: n/a
Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:39:47 • Revolutionaries do not abandon the revolution half way when victory is beckoning! So it is with Yoweri Museveni, one of the seven Ugandan ex-combatants that learnt the ropes of guerilla warfare from the master of strategic thinking and demagogue himself, one Robert Mugabe and his able commander Josiah Magama Tongogara! It should not surprise the puppets that contrary to what the propagandists of the West incessantly broadcast to the world that Uganda is in their pocket, she is not and will not be as bonds forged during the liberation struggle are so strong to be broken by the invidious wishes of an evil people with imperialistic agendas. Uganda's President learnt his guerilla warfare from Zanla and its political leadership and he knows too that the evil West will never rest until they have recolonised Africa, not because they love Africans, but because they love African resources! Bob should have told him that now there is oil found in his country, he should expect these rabid thieving nations to want to implement regime change in his country using the tired mantra that he has overstayed in power, democracy, human rights, freedom of speech, anti-gay blah blah blah nonsenses! Stay firm comrades and lets remain united because as a fist we are more powerful than if we are separated as fingers which are easily overcome. Lets force the Western world through our unity, to change its draconian economic and political system that is backed by brutal militarism. An attack on one African country should be an attack on all, of course with the exception of Botswana which shares its common border with Wales - sorry, that is where the gay Tswana unelected leader's mum hails from! My profuse apologies on that one, the poofter has only chosen to side with his maternal side of relatives but his country is in Africa! I had thought more like the ignoramus Tsvangson who thinks Zimbabwe is a country in the Western hemisphere and hence will soon be a member of the EU once he assumes power! It needed Mbeki to correct these delusions!
kayceedunn • kayceedunn@yahoo.com
Subject: leave omugabe alone
Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:13:47 • zimba massive,pliz leave omugabe alone,freedom of speech is a must let people be free to say whatever they want to say,isn't it what you guys are fighting the real robert mugabe for,press freedom and democracy .in this country people are free to say whatever they want as long as they are not instigating violence.
the fact is that we cannot continue to trust friends who only have permanent interests not permanent friends.from that time until this time,europe still have the desire to control afrikan resources.
in case you never knew ,there are some british citizens,british born not refugees, who spit more venom than what omugabe is uttering.
when italy invaded ethiopia ,his majest haile selassie1 came to england on exile and to treat his wounds inflicted by chemicals that mussollini had sprayed across ethiopia,my point is that even though the emperor was living in exile in ENGLAND,he also was opposed to collonialism which was taking place across afrika,remember that was 1936 to 1940 when britain was fully involved with rhodesian,nyasaland ,south afrikan,just to name a few.
the fact that someone is living in england does not mean that you should not be true to yourself .up ye mighty race,,, fungai and you will accomplish what you will.
na • na
Subject: A NEW TUNE PERHAPS?
Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:12:51 • Omugabe... its a new year. howzabout a new tune?
you are a like an old record that is stuck.
am sure you must have something more constructive to say instead of whittering on like a drunk in a pub where no one is listening?
Zimbabwe massive • zimbabwelive@aol.com
Subject: Please!
Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:45:39 • Dear Mr Editor, please can you apply sanctions on this Omugabe twit. It is nice to stir up conversation but this character needs to be barred from this forum, his contributions steer onward contributions in the wrong direction as people battle to correct him.
We are all pro-Zimbabwe but Omugabe seems to turn the whole thing into black versus white. I would not be surprised if this twit lives in the very countries he castigates.
Omugabe • Dziva@sanandresano.com
Subject: Look Inward & Look East for Self-development, Zim Patriots!
Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:59:28 • Which African mind is that naive to really think that the european-dominated UN is meddling in the affairs of Africans; because they so care about the welfare of Africans?
Who are the only people on the planet applying crippling sanctions to other people?
Are sanctions positive or negative for those sanctioned?
And if negative, would the FRIENDS of Africans sanction Africans? NO!
Those who can't recognize that the european-dominated UN is the ENEMY of Africans are suffering from sleeping sickness.
European sanctions backed by European-dominated UN are meant to cripple Zimbabwe and other sanctioned nations,
undermine governance,
give the ILLUSION to unthinking minds that the sanctioned countries have 'bad' leadership, and
to make the criminal case for racist 'regime changed'!
Some Africans DO know the wicked ways of the West.
And alert Africans will be relentless in their efforts to neutralize the racist and anti-African evils of Europeans, regardless of whatever deceptive organization they may use as a front to promote their delusion of world domination.
Lian • lian@lian.com
Subject: Humnan rights at stake here
Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:25:36 • People let's not be overtaken by anit-colonial sentiments. Uganda has its own issues with its poverty, insecure borders and the militia that is terrorizing its people day and night. Why should the UN not look into the Zimbabwe crisis. I for one want all the local and international eyes to scrutinize what is going on in Bob's Zimbabwe. Let's not be misled by this misplaced African pride- all we want is a safe and prosperous africa for all africans. Mugabe's regime is killing people through misadministration of health and public sectors, while in USA and UK people (including africans) are sleeping on full stomachs.
Muvaki • N/a
Subject: N/a
Mon, 05 Jan 2009 11:42:37 • Colonisation by any other name is still colonisation.
It could be the wrong word to use at this day and age where vocabulary is so advanced that instead of saying 'we want to topple a gvt' you say 'we want regime change'. But it means the same old thing, only said in a different way.
n/a • n/a
Subject: n/a
Mon, 05 Jan 2009 10:21:50 • IDIOT Omugabe. What kind of a fool wuld talk abt colonisation in ths era? Go back to school and repeat grade 1!!!!
SILLY
Omugabe • Dziva@sanandresano.com
Subject: Look Inward & Look East for Self-development, Zim Patriots!
Mon, 05 Jan 2009 04:20:28 • Although Uganda is correct with respect to the 'hands off Zimbabwe', the SAME policy should apply to ALL indigenous African countries!
The european-dominated UN SHOULD NOT be encouraged to AGAIN colonize Africans.
Most of the problems of African countries are european creation.
Th anti-African UN creates problem so that they may be called in to 'fix the problems that the europeans themselves created.
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The wind up is that europeans ONCE AGAIN colonize Africans by way of their destructive UN!
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