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Diddley Squat • na
Subject: SIZA FIRE! SIZA FIRE! OVA! OVA!
Thu, 19 Mar 2009 03:32:07 • Yatusa,
I am truly sorry that the white community I am part of did this to you but I know for a fact that many whites were not Zimbabweans. they were foreigners coming here to make a quick buck, trust me.
many of those red-eyed killing machines came down from the Congo and were mercenaries. some were even ex-warvets from Vietnam!!
You see, when we see a black man in Harare we automatically assume he is a Shona, OR a black man in Mutare is a Manica, OR a black man in Byo is an Ndebele OR a black man in any street throughout the country is a Zimbabwean but not so anymore.
We have Nigerians here now and every embassy in our country has brought in its own black diplomats who are easily absorbed into the montage of humanity we see in the streets, just as those foreigners were absorbed into ian smith's little game - for money!
So, for the same reason, when you saw a vicious white man in the rhodesian military uniform full of hatred you assumed he was a white rhodesian? mistake. if we go to Mozambique now, not all blacks there are Mozambicans anymore.
thousands of white rhodesians were sickened by ian smith and his little war.
they soon realised they were pawns and they quit at the first opportunity. my brother was amongst them because where we grew up in Matableland, we only had black playmates.
and the others? well, they were just idiots for believing they could win a racial situation in Africa.
i have since met RLI dudes (some of whom survived Chimurenga 2) who have said their greatest wish is to return and sit down with a crate of beers with those very comrades they had contacts with in certain places, and talk about everything that happened that fateful day.
their buddies also died in their arms and they left fearing for their lives when our new black government took over.
fear is a terrible thing but then you and your family know that yourself.
you think they don't have any regrets? hundreds would give their right arm to come back and apologise. they dont want farms. they just want to come home and contribute, and to eventually be buried here, not elsewhere.
as kids many of them had black friends.
that is the trouble with war - the old men (in our case WW2 Brits) make the plans and plotted and then used the young men as fodder.
do you know how many went to jail for refusing to fight?
the next war in Africa is not going to be so simple - rockets it will be directed by computers from satellite and we will stand no chance.
our Chimurenga will be a western movie in comparison to what is going to come next.
i am not making excuses.
i am merely giving you another slant to the fading dreams of those who were born in Zimbabwe and had to leave because the government of the day forced them to fight for what that government told them to believe in, not what they actually believed in.
I applaud our President and have lost friends through it, but I dont care because ZanuPF is right to fend off the western invaders, who want what is not theirs.
Our GNU is struggling yes, because the world is against us but that is going to change, and my faith is in our Leaders who must pull us through. if we all support them as well as one another, and we contribute our services on an equal basis, we will get there.
Zimbabweans are very resiliant.
now, are you going to buy that crate of beers or must I?
Mhofeti • pasizw@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: We are beginning to understand Mugabe, says Biti
Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:54:11 • JM, I grew up in a different part of Zimbabwe and certainly had a complete opposite of your experiences with Zanla and Zipra war vets. I also lost relatives and believe I may have a little appreciation of the resentment that goes with an attempt to justify any of those regrettable acts. War vets were highly regarded as defenders of our villages. Therefore I can't challenge your account of the liberation struggle BUT can certainly challenge your assertion that Zimbabwe is doomed because of Mugabe not sanctions or anything else. I don't mean to be disrespectful but that's blasphemously wrong. The only being who can unilaterally destroy a nation if he so wishes is God. It's ok to apportion the larger blame to him but to say it's nothing other than Mugabe is a joke. Such exaggerations are counter productive. Remember the honourable finance minister once equated Mugabe to Hitler and how many governments world over would not be outraged if history were to record Hitler as bad as Mugabe?
n/a • n/a
Subject: n/a
Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:01:04 • jm -Your mission seems to be to discredit the liberation movement. If you real had two brothers and some uncles who joined the liberation struggle and did not comeback, you would not want to besmirch their memory by the kind of lurid allegations you are making here.The majority of freedom fighters were a very disciplined lot. You are also forgetting that there were women freedom fighters who fought alongside the men for the liberation of Zimbabwe.I have very grave doubts that you actually witnessed the liberation war because if you did your observations will be truthful.The atrocities that Smith visited on the rural people of Zimbabwe is one for horror films.Did Smith not use Napalm on defenseless villagers? Did Smith not use biological weapons on the rural people? Did Smith not hang,torture,maim,and burn to death villagers? Did Smith not poison villagers' food,livestock and water etc? Did Smith's soldiers push gun barrels or hot pokers into women's private parts, or burn their private parts with molten plastic?Did Smith's soldiers and Selous Scouts not bury people alive? What of the carpet bombing of whole villages? What of the concentration camps he herded them into? What of the genocide at Nyadzonia, Chimoi etc.The list is endless.Even after all these atrocities, Smith was extended the hand of reconciliation and died a freeman and still farming. Many Zimbabweans were furious with President Mugabe for extending the hand of reconciliation to Smith. Many Zimbabweans would have gladly lynched Smith and hang him up on the nearest tree. Many Zimbabweans grudgingly accepted the reconciliation route for the greater good of the country..For your information Smith's army and Selous Scouts (of which Bennett of MDC-T was a member) had black Zimbabweans in them. Some of these black Zimbabweans and some white ones who committed these terrible crimes have of late resurfaced as born again democrats and champions of human rights.So this black on black violence you are alluding to has always been there.
JM and Mavedzenge should understand that Zimbabweans are reconciling once again and should be given the space to do so.
SACRED MAD COW OF SUSSEX • na
Subject: http://www.sacred-texts.com/afr/we/index.htm
Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:25:59 • The Cushite?
being of an enquiring mind I wondered how many readers knew what this word meant, or whether they would check it out as I did?
Surprise! Its about the Wonderful Ethiopians
of the Ancient Cushite Empire
by Drusilla Dunjee Houston [1926, no renewal].
but then I suppose you all knew that and I have just learned it!
I aim to learn something every day and this is my learnin for today. Fascinating.
Did you know that ancient Media and Persia were also CUSHITE? (check it out on
http://www.sacred-texts.com/afr/we/we20.htm).
Now all I need is someone who can translate all these arbitrary Shona sentences into Sindebele for me. Its something Google doesnt do!
Motormouth! • n/a
Subject: n/a
Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:45:55 • Mavedzenge, the Mugabe-bashing industry is now grinding to halt and you are not a happy chappie! You just wanted the chaos to continue and our people to die just because you were making a few bob and a few pence here and there from the evil man eeehhhhhh? Shame on you!
jm • n/a
Subject: YATUSA
Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:05:26 • YATUSA if you want to I can give you my phone number to prove I am not a white but I am a very proud Ndebele Zimbabwean and I am still in Zimbabwe the land of my birth and of my forefathers where in this big world are you based I bet you are out of Africa.........how dare you call me a sellout when many members of my family were killed by the dogs called the 5th brigade who are still in power today I have many uncles and two brothers who fought and died in the war of liberation.................BUT TODAY PEOPLE ARE STILL DYING HERE IN ZIMBABWE AND NO IT IS NOT WHITE PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THE KILLING BUT BLACK SO CALLED FORMER FREEDOM FIGHTERS............I beg you to challenge me on any historical facts in Matabeleland during the war because I have lived through it and seen the atrocities commited by both the white and black fighters..............NEVER CALL ME A SELLOUT AGAIN FOR IF YOU ARE NOT IN ZIM TODAY THEN YOU ARE THE SELLOUT ............. CONTROL YOURSELF BEFORE YOU THROW ACCUSATIONS ABOUT ........Zimbabwe is doomed today because of your uncle Mugabe not because of sanctions or anything else he is the sellout because he has betrayed the struggle for money .................
yatusa • n/a
Subject: WAR VETs/ jm.na
Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:29:28 • The attack on Freedom Fighters by most likely a sellout scout JM.can not go unchallenged.
I write this article as someone who witnessed the war when growing up as a young boy in the rural areas. At grade 6 by then i was old enough to understand what was happening. First came in our village the DAs, Followed by the Auxiliary Force and the Dzakutsaku etc. Many relatives , friends, etc were shot for various allegations by Smith and company soldiers. I witnessed nasty incidents which were very unpleasant indeed. The white man was very ruthless with the village African once suspected to be a terrorist or collaborator.
Even today I do not understand what was happening in these soldiers minds on the issue of torturing women by shoving gun barrels in their private parts and worse still burning them accusing them of being wives of terrorists.I can go on and on if not write a book if I was a talented authour. Those who were in the rural areas can testify.
Don't loose heart because JM is not an African Zimbabwean. He is an unrepentant ex Rhodesian Army officer hence he claims that Freedom fighters were also killing. But spare me a minute, obviously not all whites are like JM.na. We have some who are still in and some are outside Zimbabwe who understand the vision of Patriotic African Zimbabweans,
Just as a reminder to JM. na What ever your thoughts about War Vets. They liberated Zimbabwe and they are our heroes. They routed you out with all your support from UK and America. History will always say that you were defeated by Zipra and Zanla forces. The other thing for sure. You will never rule this country again no matter what.No amount of insults will make us loose focus.
The money that you poured into into the regime change project hopping to reap rewards whatever these rewards were is gone. You will not recover it so don't vent your frustrations on our heroes. Takaidya mari yemarema and minda takatora. Iyezvino tirikuti isu, The land issue is irreversible and is none negotiable
lucy chakanyuka • marialuciachakanyuka@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: land issue
Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:18:09 • guys we have a big problem at hand in Zimbabwe we all seem to forget the underlying issue here as i see it the land issue is the biggest problem for Zimbabwe.Having said that i would like to remind all parties concerned to address this issue before it gets out of control again.I believe black Zimbabweans are entitled to their land and should be given priority over white farmers,I totally agree with Mugabe when he gave farms to the black majority what i disagree with is to give farms to people that are not equiped if those people were fully equiped i tell you we will not be in this mess that we are.The way forward as i see it training programmes should be in place as of now and let me tell you one thing for sure if Zimbabweans are not given land the sruggle will continue be it Mugabe ,Tsvangirai or whoever is in power will face problems besides its high time we have our own food to feed the nation,Iknow Zimbabweans can do it ,we want vanaMudhumeni,maMaster farmer back on track .government should take control of most of the farms lying idle and start agricultural programmes as of now,start financing the black farmers,to you remember the GRAIN LOAN SCHEME? It was a success by then until politics took over and destroyed all.
Its easy to blame Mugabe over the land issue but the guy was only giving back what is ours by right i dont even want to entertain the theme that white farmers are better than black farmers ,thats not right because the black farmer is underprivilegded
given the chance and opportunity with all the right eqiupment black farmers will do better than white farmers.
N/A • N/A
Subject: N/A
Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:17:51 • May the Lord God on high continue to bless Robert Mugabe for the good that he has done for many many Zimbabweans, and forgive him for the bad he may have done for very few Zimbabweans.I also pray that he gives him more than 7 scores of years on this earth.
Viva Robert Mugabe
Mavedzenge • N/A
Subject: Maakudya ka?
Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:17:37 • Maakudya ka that is why you now understand the despot.Maakudziya moto wembavha nhai.No one will ever understand this desotand tyrant.You are very mistaken tendai my learned friend.
todd kidd • toddkidd67@yahoo.com
Subject: Mugabe
Tue, 17 Mar 2009 02:31:11 • President Mugabe is an honest man who wants the best for black Zimbabweans. He wants to empower his people and I admire him for this. It would have been easy for Mugabe to keep going with the status quo because he was well taken care of ;however, he wanted to help the poor people of Zimbabwe become rich. Why is it that black people world wide don't support black leaders who apire for black people to be rich? This is crazy. I've never stepped foot on African soil but my ancestors are from Africa. They were taken as slaves and brought to America and build up America. One day I want to travel to the mother land and the first place I want to see is Zimbabwe. There is a reason the WEST demonize Mugabe; they know that Zimbabwe is rich so they want to take Mugabe out. Mugabe knows Zimbabwe is rich with natural resources but he wants his people to enjoy the fruits of their native land and become rich. I know that there are problems but peace has come to Zimbabwe. The MDC seems to want peace and they're willing to put Zimbabwe first before their European backers. I think this is great and I firmly belive that Zimbabwe will become the bread basket of Africa again. Zimbabwe is the jewel of black Africa. I love Zimbabwe and God willing I want to visit Zimbabwe. I feel I am Zimbabwean. Long live Africa and Long live Zimbabwe. Black American in New Orleans.
n/a • n/a
Subject: President Mugabe
Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:47:16 • N/A - Thanks for a refreshingly writtien article - for once - total facts as they stand and should be said. I second that notion that Zim is one of the most tolerant nations when it comes to race relations. I hope you are are still in Zim as this article displays what true Zimbabweans are about. We are truly on the right track if your sentiments are shared by all. Thank you brother/sister - you've restored my faith in humanity and Zimbabwe. Pamberi nekubatana!!!
jm • n/a
Subject: jairos tapfuma
Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:23:13 • Jairos Tapfuma you talk as though the zanla and zipra fighters did not kill innocent villagers during the war you make it out as only the smith soldiers were killers..............well let me remind you my war vet friend............YOU GUYS WERE KILLING AND RAPING BLACK VILLAGERS IN HUGE NUMBERS YOU GUYS ARE STILL KILLING BLACK PEOPLE IN ZIMBABWE ...........so calm down and take a deep breath because you war vets who love mugabe are the problem we have in Zimbabwe....................
The Cushite • genevince@gmail.com
Subject: Destroy Imperialism once and for all!
Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:27:31 • The indigenous Africans of Zimbabwe must not allow Europeans to steal the land and resources again. They must not allow Europeans to control African land and resources. They must not allow Europeans to have privilege over indigenous African.
They must stop worshiping European images of God and stop the fantasy that Jesus was magically so-called white!
Omugabe • Dziva@sanandresano.com
Subject: Look Inward & Look East for Self-development, Zim Patriots!
Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:24:32 • Veteran Tapfuma
You are a wise Zim and African Patriot. And you made an excellent and intelligent post that shows your deep understanding justice and of Zim circumstances.
The quality of magnanimity repeatedly exhibited by Mugabe is a virtuous human quality; and the display of that uniquely human quality we praise whenever it is expressed for itself alone.
However, magnanimity is wasted on those creatures whose disposition is historically more beastly inclined.
From observing the history of their relentless, criminal and destructive behavior across the planet, alert minds MUST conclude that Europeans are more inclined towards the destructive disposition.
When the above is true, it becomes a huge mistake to believe that magnanimity towards Europeans colonialists will be reciprocated, or will soften the hard hearts of Europeans. IT WILL NOT!
Magnanimity will not soften the hearts of European criminal colonialists. No alert African mind will fail to know this fact from history of destructive European behavior.
This is precisely what has given rise to the criminal sanctions: The magnanimity shown by Zim Patriots towards the criminal invaders after the Chirumenga, is read by the brits to be a sign of African folly, African weakness, and an opportunity to exploit Africans by other means after the Chimurenga.
The correct response to ian smith and his racist gangs of mass murderers was THE RULE OF LAW!
Magnanimity IS NOT meant to neutralize the Rule of Law.
Virtue and Justice are twin elements of Natural Law. They MUST be applied simultaneously.
As long as some Zimbabweans disrespect the Rule of Law and not exact compensation for the countless wrongs of criminal invaders, those beings of britain and elsewhere will forever delude themselves that their designs on things African are legitimate. They ARE NOT legitimate.
Criminal invaders have NO legitimacy to things African!
Instead, criminal invaders should be made to pay compensation of all kinds, including loss of ALL African loot and loss of liberty.
Only then will Europeans get the message that Africans are not fools, and WILL apply the Rule of Law to their beast behavior in Africa. And Africans WILL NEVER again be taken for granted by criminal invaders; because there will be hell to pay!
N/A • N/A
Subject: President Mugabe
Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:16:17 • It is a good thing that Jairos Tapfuma (a war veteran) has articulated what the real fight in Zimbabwe is all about.The fight has never been about blacks against whites. The fight has always been about fighting imperialistic machinations in the country. Imperialists can be any colour black, white,brown and what have you.Zimbabweans have been distracted by simplifying the Zimbabwean problem as merely a black vs white issue. Divide and rule tactics here. There are Zimbabweans of all colours who want to see that country get back its status as a jewel of Africa. The inclusive govt should appeal to all Zimbabweans, black, white , brown to come together and invest in the country. Zimbabwe is one of the most tolerant countries in the world when it comes to race issues. Its mainly outsiders who have tried to stir trouble in that country for their own vested interests.
President Mugabe is someone that has been misunderstood for a very long time. The demonisation exercise by the West has not helped matters.In1980, President Mugabe extended the hand of reconciliation and did not all races live side by side happily for many years? Whatever anyone says about the man, he has always been constistent in his views. He has always stated that his fight is against imperialism and for the empowerment of his people.As Mbuso states, Mugabe is a pricipled man whose yes is a yes and his no is a no. Everyone understands that 1980 ushered in political independence but not economic independence which was the ultimate goal of the liberation struggle. Unity amongst all Zimbabweans is a must if we are to move the country forward. Zimbabwe can accommodate all of us irrespective of our colour. Patriotic Zimbabweans of all colours should rise up and be counted, your country needs you.
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Wise Man • N/A
Subject: N/a
Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:44:16 • I now fully understand you Mbuso. How can you say babies in their mummys' tummies and small babies wanted to topple the government. Its clear that you lost no relative during the distrubance that you mention, and I now fully understand the person that I am dealing with. Thanks
Nxumalo Mbuso • nmbuso@gmail.com
Subject: Mugabe
Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:12:56 • I never liked Mugabe after the Midlands and the Matebeland disturbances. This was mainly due to what I was reading in the papers and what critics were saying about him.
Today I do agree excessive force was used in dealing with the problem then. But having looked at it all, which country would have stood and watch when a group of certain individuals were planning to topple a government. I understood though that soldiers were deployed for a reason. I listened to his speeches, I read literature about this man and his vision. I understood him. He is for Zimbabwe and he is principled his no is a no and his yes a is yes.
We were promised his head was to be delivered no matter what by the opposition remember. I dismissed this as rubbish and I got all insults from the regime change agents. The British understands him only they twist facts to suit them because they don't like what he stands for.His colleagues in the party and government they also seem not to understand him no wonder why they do the opposite of what he says. But for those who listens to what he says do appreciate what is there for taking.
People of Zimbabwe lets unite. Divided we will fall. Mind the so called good for nothing who divide and rule.
Didley Squat, Tasmania • na.
Subject: BE A BRICK IN THE WALL.
Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:31:33 • Jairos, as a white reader and devout supporter of this on-line paper, I must say thank you for putting the record straight. Hopefully more whites will soon come to appreciate and understand our President.
I agree with you on every word you say. Thank you for saying it. You fought for hard and fast for equality and now you have it. Well done. Ian Smith was a stubborn old git who was blinded by his white visions.
There are some whites out there who understand and appreciate what has gone down, and they still live in Zimbabwe, and many are returning, but there are those who still dont realise they could be a brick in the wall - if they wanted - not strive to be the wall itself. Walls create divisions. At the end of the day I think our leaders just want everyone to be a real brick in our country.
manex • pamsrock@yahoo.com
Subject: peace
Mon, 16 Mar 2009 09:26:09 • Pamberi nekubatana vakomana. Nyangwe zvikadii Zimbabwe ndeyedu. Let's do good for our kids to enjoy in the future.
Jairos Tapfuma • n/a
Subject: Veteran
Mon, 16 Mar 2009 08:01:52 • President Mugabe has to be understood better. I am a war veteran of Chimurenga and fought for the liberation of Zimbabwe.
I am one of those who were not happy about the President's ideology of reconciliation that would let the white Rhodesians keep their top posts in the new national army after we attained independence in 1980. I started to mistrust the President and wondered what he was up to, considering that the very same white commanders were the ones who had just been murdering refugees at Chimoio, Nyadzonia and so forth in Mozambique.
It was the very same time you could barely walk in the rural areas of Zimbabwe and not come across a corpse being eaten by dogs or bones of people killed by Ian Smith during the war.
Fine, it was a war, but wars are fought passionately-remember. I only started to understand the President's idea later-the idea of the importance of unity, the importance of oneness and it is the same idea today. What he does not like, the way i understand him, is the idea of black Africans always playing second fiddle to imperialists.
Even us war veterans-we do not hate opposition parties, but they must be genuinely opposition than to have this British imperialistic ghost behind them. We start to get worried because being independent does not mean being free to walk anywhere. It means more than that. We need to have back our natural resources the way Britain claims ownership of what is in their land.
Omugabe • Dziva@sanandresano.com
Subject: Look Inward & Look East for Self-development, Zim Patriots!
Mon, 16 Mar 2009 01:07:51 • Magnanimous Mugabe, African Hero, allowed the anti-African mass murdering thief, ian smith, to live out his miserable life in Zimbabwe. Mugabe even allowed that demon to re-enter Zimbabwe after visiting his equally murderous bigots of britain.
So Mugabe couldn't have done less for a fellow African, even though that fellow African sided with Zim enemies in the west and acted against Africans' interest.
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