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Mhofeti • pasizw@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Eddie Cross disputes Tsvangirai over crash
Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:04:48 • Mujoni, I thought when someone is the first on the accident scene, they are most likely busy helping victims the best way they can. If taking pictures from the top of an accident vehicle counts as first aid to you, then I rest my case. Even in other cases I have never heard of an accident spontaneously attracting people from a ten kilometre radius. And that's not to say it doesn't happen, only that I'm not surprised that some have their suspicion on that being normal.
togarepi • tog@yahoo.com
Subject: Theron Bhunu
Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:55:48 • Phreedom, I have no apology to make for my comments regarding your contribution. When i said you are insulting us I meant you are insulting the Zimbabwean people basing or judging by your contribution. Fine if you think I am using hate laugauge.Where does Charamba come in here? You seem to have problems with people who dont even wish to share a cup of tea with you. Which Charamba are you refering to? Is it the gospel singer?
My head is hollow thank you for that observation. You seem not to know exactly what you want to say as you are jumping from on topic to another typical of a fool. Far from it. I am not in any of those organisations. The only thing I can tell you is that I am a Zimbabwean. A patriotic Zimbabwean and I am not a regime change agent. You sound like you are a bitter someone and looking for a place to vent out.
My point was simple. If the US & UK acknowledged that the truck which killed mai Tsvangirai is theirs why should anybody cry foul and claim that its not theirs? Why drag Zanu into the issue.? We all know Americans and British dont see eye to eye with Zanu. How then would they allow a zanu supporter or memeber to drive their truck? So you are white and you think we are stuipid and we can by your lies. I am noy sure of your relationship with Theron. But I never said he had a hand. My only question is why the filming and if you say he stays closer. Is he always filming accidents which happen along harare masvingo road next to our farm where he is squating.? CFU wants alll designated farms back no two ways about it.Tsvangirai now says no returns. Eddie Cross and yourself are members of CFU. So this case zeros on the two of you.
You seem to be out of touch with reality. Do you know what is happening in the country today? What you were dreaming of and aggitating for did not happen. It will not happen and will never happen. You can try all sorts of tricks but we are clear as Africans.We are so resolute.You want to bet. Funny Ndiwo maPounds ekutsvaira matoilet aakukupa manyemwe. Njereshoma dzakauraya vatenzi.
Phreedom • wellington.mugadza@yahoo.com
Subject: Dumb all over
Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:27:09 • togarepi - I don't recall insulting you. What was insulting to you in my comment? Didn't I comment before you - and now you go and insult me. You must think harder before putting your thoughts to paper - otherwise it may appear that your head is hollow. You sound like George Charamba - so full of hate you cannot process information properly.
Razor, if you have information from your research then let us hear what that evidence is. Are you in the police or CIO? I am willing to bet you that there is no case against Theron. Lets see who is right.
togarepi • tat@yahoo.com
Subject: Double Rubbish
Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:29:11 • Majoni and Phreedom musada kereverera Theoron. If you insult us we are also capable of insulting you.Torege kutaura maonero edu here nekuti tinozodzi maZanu apologists. Zvinanzwa mate munonetsa.
Just because a white man who wants to see Zimbabwe burning has come up with his own version you quickly jump to it. What makes you think the CFU can not plan to get rid of the PM? If these guys have been pouring money into the party hopping to have the land allocation reversed and suddenly after investing so much they are told its money gone to waste. Its easy for these guys to kill and put someone who will support their cause through and through. They are advisers of the party and have so much influence. How much do you trust even the other black guys who were said to have voted against joining the inclusive govt.
Don't intimidate people with different views from yours by accusing them of being Zanu apologists. A word which you seem to use but not knowing its actual meaning. You are the same fools who after a certain Bishop was caught in an uncompromising position with a married woman went on to blame Zanu. Stupid fools. Eddie Cross is saying he will not accept the Police report. Fair and fine. He has his own reason why and to some of us he has something to hide.It sounds like these are the same people who advised the PM not to use the allocated state vehicle and drivers plus security but to use party cars and drivers plus security. Musatamba ne Bhunu remuZimbabwe. Muchafunga bako manaiwa.
Suggesting that he rushed to the scene as he stays near by is silly. Does it mean that he has been filming all accidents happening along the road closer to his farm? Kutotora mifananidzo aripamusoro pemotokari yemunhu afa.
Majoni, can you explain why the UK made a statement about the tragedy and the US followed up with contradictory statements concerning the same accident. The truck involved belongs to USAID & DifD. The British and the Americans have accepted its their truck. So where do we put Zanu here? You see how foolish and stupid you are? The only explanation here is you are one of them and have tried to give yourself an African name to sound otherwise. Eddie Cross, well he does not trust Africans yes there are no whites in the Police force. Mr Cross neither do progressive Zimbabweans trust you. I am not a Zanu supporter but I will not just blame for the sack of blaming.
The people who can tell us what exactly happened are the survivors from this tragedy not Cross. These are the true and actual witnesses.As I see it you are just aftter one thing that is chaos in this country nothing else. UK has already indicated that they want to fly you out. Let me not be polite here. They want to evacuate you. So who is fooling who? We know you dont care.We know you think as Africans we are fools. We know you are pretenders.
ZIMBABWE IS NOT FOR SALE.
I for
Mbiru Chinhandavata • changamirembiru@gmail.com
Subject: Eddie Cross Dispute over Tsvangirayi Crush
Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:33:40 • well well its you again, Zimbabwean have suffered enough and we do not need this at this point in time and let Tsangirayi and the people of Zimbabwe go through this once and for all. You need to graw up Eddie and learn to accept the reality. Which MDC do you belong to? Mugabe remain a father figure for Zimbabwe and you are left behind Eddie, even those sons and doughters of Tsvangirayi have accepted and realised that Mugabe is human and a father for the country called Zimbabwe. He has shown that to the world and remember Afrikans still have a humanity and a sense of community. In times like this even enemies do bond forever and we have seen it with our own eyes in this situations. For your own information, Mai Mugabe, Comrade Manyonda, Tsvangirayi, General Shiri, Mudede, Zimonti, Gono, Rex Nhongo, to mention but a few they all come from Buhera and they are from one family tree.
MrK • bannie2020@hotmail.com
Subject: Uh-oh
Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:08:14 • What are the odds that Morgan Tsvangirai's car is in an accident, two days after he said to parliament that he would not turn back land reform, and the first person on the scene is the first white farmer to have been evicted, who is also the VP of the CFU, and happens to have a camera with him? I think the police had better check whether the tire on Tsvangirai's car had not been shot out. And whether the other drivers of the USAID trucks weren't acting as spotters.
Omugabe • Dziva@sanandresano.com
Subject: Look Inward & Look East for Self-development, Zim Patriots!
Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:05:45 • In an atmosphere of distrust, no 'accident' can happen. And Conspiracy Theories will abound if any claim of 'accidents' is made.
In an atmosphere of distrust (especially when historically lying, deceptive and destructive Europeans are involved) not even a 'accident' can happen without someone targeted for blame.
If there is an up side to this tragedy, it is that the leaders that are Mentally Deluded by Colonialists (MDC) have been humbled by their mortality.
They have also come to share grief, even as too many ordinary Zimbabweans have grief from criminal sanctions relentlessly encouraged by MDC and their evil puppeteers.
n/a • n/a
Subject: n/a
Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:19:31 • Is that the same Eddie Cross of the Commercial Farmers Union (CFU) who was hoping that Zimbabwe will crash and burn? Was he in New York to beef up the Zidera,Act, 2001 as he was the co-author of the original ? US sanctions against Zimbabwe have devastated millions of lives and Eddie Cross was very instrumental in calling for the sanctions.Cross' interests lie with the Commercial Farmers Union (i.e farms) and not with the interests of the ordinary Zimbabwean. Everyone knows that Eddie Cross is a failed businessman and a declared bankrupt. People like Cross forget that they were extended the hand of reconciliation by President Mugabe in 1980.Remember Cross was very much a part of Smith's security forces who carried out heinious crimes against the rural population of Zimbabwe during the war of liberation.
Cross should just shut up and let the investigation conclude.All he is attempting to do is to divert attention, raise the political temperature and then have people fight one another.Can someone tell this fool that all Zimbabweans are now PRE-OCCUPIED with the turnaround of the economy and are not prepared to fight one another to fulfil Cross' Rhodie agendas?
Motormouth! • n/a
Subject: n/a
Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:28:25 • All the reason why Theron must immediately be asked to vacate the farm he illegally occupies! He can get a good farm from the New York Times! If he wants a worker who is dedicated to his cause he can have Phreedom!
NOVA • na.
Subject: candid camera
Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:18:52 • this is the new millenium. everyone carries a camera with them - even on their cellphones now. its not a new phenomen. ova here even parking meter readers
Razor razor • wwwim@cooltoad.com
Subject: Let me help you
Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:33:01 • Mujoni and Phreedom are naive and they think that MDC and/or white people are super human beings who one day will give them food or good favour. Try other means guys. From you Phreedom 10km is not a short distance as you think. Theron thought that Tsvangirai would favor white farmers but was perplexed to see the reverse. He took pictures to send to CIA to plan on covering evidence. Sorry guys but do research rather than revolving upon your unjustified hatred.
Fredrick Matsheza • fmatsheza@gmail.com
Subject: Genuine Accident per se
Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:50:48 • It seems to me that this was a genuine accident, however people are free to come out with their own theories, people like Eddie Cross are very good at creating theories which are unfounded in order to create chaos..Tsvangirai said it was a genuine accident and all compiled evidence point out to that
Mujoni • mujoni@gmail.com
Subject: Theron
Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:40:01 • It seems like most people here write of some nonsense that are not even well researched. You are busy mentioning Theron and him being the first on the spot, have you guys even tried investigating where Theron stays ?? HE STAYS ON A FARM ADJACENT TO THE ACCIDENT SCENE. So if an accident ikaitika mupurazi mako or somewhere near, arent you one who is supposed to possibly be there first. Kana mumalocation matakakirira isusu, we all know kuti pakaitika anything pa-next door, before even mapurisa asvika handiti vanhu vanenge vaungana kare ?? WHAT HAPPENED TO INVESTIGATIVE AND FACTUAL LOURNALISM AND REPORTING ?????? Instead of reporting on known facts that Kasukuwere was involved and how did he got to have that truck there with a driver never employed but instead hired neKasukuwere, munonyora zvisina basa. Ngatisangoite blame varungu for everything... NDAPOTA hangu. When are we going to start owning up for our mis-deeds as black people. All that goes bad in our midst we blame it on the closest white man around.. WHY ??
n/a • chimoko62@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: 'Accident'?
Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:04:05 • Rina manyanga hariputirwe. Chokwadi chichabuda hacho pachena. There are too many greedy people who have lost all sense of responsibility, morality and respect for human life in Zimbabwe. There is too much greed and selfishness. There are too many contradictory and conflicting vested interests in the abundant wealth of our beautiful mother land. Kukara kuchaita kutu budiriro yeZimbabwe ive zviroto chete.We need to seriously introspect as a people. We need a serious re-think of ourselves.We need serious moral regeneration and a reclamation of our self-respect. One thing is certain, though: the land reform programme cannot be reversed. All that is required is to re-think the logistics of how ordinary people on the land can become productive and confident farmers. The culture of greed and corruption must go. The era of White supremacy is gone, and gone forever. Watch out, Theron.
Phreedom • wellington.mugadza@yahoo.com
Subject: This is unfortunate
Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:51:01 • This story is going to play out and the truth will come out. Right now we can see the building blocks of the official BIG LIE or COVER UP. Yes, why not blame the CFU working in cahoots with the British and the Americans of trying to assassinate Tsvangirai!!!! Oh yeah,, it doesn't make any sense at all and no one is going to fall for it.
Would you believe it? Would anyone believe it?
Its not a mystery why Theron was at the scene. The fact that this is being deliberately misreported by state media and zanu apologists - right now is the MOST suspicious thing about the accident.
Theron lives on a farm only 10km from the scene. He had been called by Movement for Democratic Change officials to photograph the scene in order to provide a record in case of an inquiry, his relatives said. - Sapa-dpa
This has Zanu fingerprints all over it. The truth will come out and I expect the people's fury may know no bounds.
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