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Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:32:57 • For once JM has stated the obvious that Mugabe is not going anywhere because he still has massive support in Zimbabwe. That is a very honest observation by JM and is the truth.
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Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:03:23 • Aahh Iwe n/a Peter Thatchell ano yoyeka. Ingochani. Vana vanodzoka vave vekunyika mundove.
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Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:31:23 • Do not be fooled by Zimbabweans who are in the diaspora. The majority of them are doing menial jobs such as bum cleaning, warehousing, live in carers, security, farm work , shop work, road sweepers etc. They do not have the skills or money to contribute meaningfully to Zimbabwe.The parallel market had made some of them think they had arrived. The adoption of the multi-currency has shown the majority of them that they can no longer hack it either abroad or in Zimbabwe and have now resorted to booing and heckling. The transition from a king to a jack is always painful.
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Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:17:14 • The behaviour of those MDC-T supporters in Southwark Cathedral was a disgrace to MDC-T and to Zimbabwe.Super-T is right that the MDC-T party in the UK must take the blame for the fiasco The PM was there on national duty and the meeting should have been for all Zimbabweans instead of MDC supporters. In a way the MDC-T supporters in the UK have shown to the whole world what a bunch of uncouth hooligans they are.Can you imagine the kind of havoc they would have caused if they were on their own home turf. Even the Rt Reverend had to remind these low lives that they were guests in his house. The MDC-T supporters have been behind some of the most horrific violence in Zimbabwe and have always tried to put the blame on Zanu-PF supporters.The MDC-T supporters have shown time and time again their propensity to resort to violence when they do not get their own way. They turned on their leadership just because they did not agree with the message. These MDC-T supporters are intolerant, have no idea of freedom of speech and have shown to the whole world what a bunch of loosers they are. They acted like banshees in a place of worship. The MDC-T will not bring democracy to Zimbabwe with supporters like this. Has anyone ever seen Zanu-PF supporters behaving like animals towards the leadership? MDC-T supporters in the UK have disgraced us all.
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Subject: racist
Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:32:41 • to the racist dog who wrote under the n/a name and who said it was colured people involved in the booing of Morgan can you please check yourself for the only hecklers were failed black asylum seekers and some rhodies, us goffal don't give a fuck about politics in zimbabwe we are not involved in any farm grabbing we dont get involved in any stupid nonsense and we are not the ones who fucked up zim that was done by the honkies and then by you black geezers so as for me i have a british passport and only go back to zim to have a party at the vic falls and in H the sunshine city before heading back to Europe where I am earning some serious money as a fully qualified engineer........
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Subject: No amount of booing will stop the Inclusive Government
Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:21:00 • The booing of the Prime Minister by that rowdy crowd at Southwark was utter disrespect of our Prime Minister and totally out of order. This behaviour just goes to show how ignorant those booers are on matters of national interest.
Surely there are better ways of putting across matters of concern to the leadership, be it party or national leadership. Showing such stupid behaviour to your national leader in a foreign country is betrayal of African etiquette of the worst order.
This behaviour must be condemned by all progressive Zimbabweans across the political divide. This goes to show how low some Zimbabweans are willing to go to destroy their country for a few pieces of silver.
The PM can take comfort in that there are a lot of Zimbabweans in the Diaspora who are empathetic to his efforts and that no amount of booing will defeat the Inclusive government.
A closer scrutiny of the composition of the audience informs us that that meeting was wrongly constituted in the sense that the PM's party advisers in the UK blundered by making the engagement a party issue instead of a national engagement.
In so doing they precluded a lot of Zimbabweans from attending. The MDC-T leadership in UK should take full blame for this unforgivable oversight and for seeking narrow party issues at the expense of national engagement.
A national engagement meeting was the most sensible thing to do given the fact that the PM is on Government official duty. Had it been a non party issue none of the embarassing scenes would have occurred. This is obviously a steep learning curve for those in the MDC-T UK chapter.
That meeting was hijacked by hardcore former white farmers backed by asylum seekers.
Ndatenda Hangu/ Siyabonga
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Subject: PASSES FOR ARSES?
Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:23:02 • Am confused.
DOES this mean that in order to wipe an old white Rhodie backside you actually get awarded a certificate?
then there wont be any jobs in Zimbabwe for those MDC who do this job anyway because all the OAPs are being gathered up by their puppet master Gordon Brown and taken back to Britain.
WHY DONT these MDC asylum seekers stay there with Peter Thachell where they are guaranteed such high tech jobs.
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Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:42:12 • This was a stage managed occassion with unintended consequences. Who allowed the protestors to come into a place of worship with political banners? The booing and jeering of the PM was terrible and Biti's shocked expression was a sight to behold.
The Zimbabweans who were at the cathedral are not representative of diasporan Zimbabweans, the majority of whom do not support the MDC. The majority of the protestors are failed asylum seekers whose interests is only to secure their right to stay in the UK. These low lives have told so many lies about political persecution in Zimbabwe for their own selfish ends and have contributed greatly in the tarnishing of the image of Zimbabwe. Tsvangirai has told them the following : that there are no poliitical prisoners in Zimbabwe, that there is peace and stability in Zimbabwe and that there is no longer any political violence from both sides. Tsvangira lives in Zimbabwe and should know and yet these protestors some of whom have not been to Zimbabwe for more than a decade pretend to know better. Anyway 80% of Zimbabweans who are actually living in the country support the inclusive gvt. Who the heck are these so called Diasporan Zimbabweans? Let them get back to their menial jobs and let those in Zimbabwe solve their own problems.
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Subject: posing as white Rhodies
Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:57:42 • I suspect the truth is that one or two of those white men holding up the banners were in fact what are known in our country as m'coloureds, or who are known to call themselves gophals. they have been here so long they have lost their tans and now pose and pass for white Rhodies.
makoni • makoni at ayhoo.co.uk
Subject: style of life and income
Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:14:42 • Isu takabvira kare tichishandira zimbabwe. Todzokera kumusha tino exploitwa futi. anotipa marii Tsvangiarai? $100? Ndiyo pocket money yemwana wangu pa vhiki.
Mapolitzheni akazadza homwe dzavo nemari yekuba tivasensere futi. Chete vachirimumashureshure nedevelopment. I mean the real development not a token one with a face value. Zimbabwe will never be what it was eve agia when we come back home after all these trivialities.
Nyaya yekuti munhu one anoramba achiita zvaanoda ichapera. We do not accept all this nonsense Mugabe is doing.
Kana atichekera minda tozoenda. Mazita ese anayo Why asin kugovera munhu wese munda. anoda kuti ndinoshanda papurazi rake?
We need all the economic fundamantal to be corrected, theexecutive, judicaiay and the parliament must be seen to be working independently thanit is now.
Tsvangiarai anofanira kuisa dual citizenship. Ndiyo inotosimudzira nyika because people will be aloowed the freedom of movement. I have long told you that you the currency was supposed to have an interantionla par value hezvi zvakushanda. Exploitation yese iripamari ipapo. I can't say the one merce des benz is equivalent to all our ground nuts in zimbabwe or all our tobacco is equivalent to two computers?
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Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:45:24 • They also sang the wrong anthem. They are not Zimbabweans. They are black Britons. I agree we dont need them back here-they can continue to scrub the backs of them British.
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Subject: RHODESIA FRONT MANIPULATES MDC
Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:39:25 • Mr K you are so right - these mobsters are only intersted in themselves.
Am still reeling from the fact that Mrs Tsvangirai has been dead just THREE MONTHS and this man, who is officially still in mourning, still gets booed by his own MDC members on the international stage by his support group? Hah!
These are the same animals who wept and howled and screamed that their mother and died only a short while ago?
God help us if such an unfeeling mob ever gets to rule Zimbabwe. They have turned on one of their own whose wife's blood is not yet dry in her grave!
Surely this proves to the international media that they are basically no better than animals and no better than those whom they continually spread lies about and oppose.
Such false shallow individuals are all sheep
manipulated by those RF white men hovering in the shadows determined to destabilise our country.
they will never rest until our President steps down. Theirs is an inherited Rhodesian Front vow.
It sickens me and I am sure it sickens every other person on the sidelines watching these attention-grabbing antics of Morgan's shallow MDC so- called supporters who were well aware that the media was watching.
Morgan, I am so sorry. These rabid creatures do not deserve your valued input. They are worse than dogs or animals actually and in fact they have done themselves a great disservice because you now have more ZanuPF supporters on your patch, who appreciate your input, than anyone of them callous bastards.
Pamberi ne Zanu!
Chenjerayi • murenga@hotmail.com
Subject: Rented Boos
Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:38:13 • The people who started the booing of the Prime Minister were a rented crowd - people paid a few quid by the likes of Peter Tatchell (the gay gangster)and company. Him and his lot, including many Rhodesians in exile, are unhappy at Morgan compromising with President Mugabe because they do not have the Zimbabwean people's interests at heart. All they want is a restoration of their farms and a return to the situation where they controlled the economy and bossed black people around. Unfortunately, amongst the numerous black Zimbabwean economic refugees in the UK there is little sense of patriotism. Many of them will sell their old grandmothers for the golden pound. And do not forget that most of these guys claimed asylum by lying to UK immigration that they were persecuted by Zanu PF back home. They know that Morgan's message, that Zimbabwe is safe, will give the British establishment the excuse that it has been looking for to deport them back to Zim. Tumari twekupisika chembere twushoma. Vari kutya kusvika kumusha vasina chinhu, ivo vambenge vachitsvinyira vanhu kumusha zvichinzi tiri kuLondon takabudirira.
Tisu Vatongi • tisu@hotmail.com
Subject: Tsvangson is not Gay
Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:44:17 • I am not so sure Zimbabwe has a desperate need for people whose only skill is cleaning machembere.
I think quiet frankly and without trying to be politically correct...a lot of the - diasporans-...especially those in the UK...have no skills to offer back in Zimbabwe.
A Group B accent-turned-British is unfortunately not an employable skill
MrK • bannie2020@hotmail.com
Subject: MDC
Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:53:57 • Did anyone see that footage? There were a few white men standing around the audience like they controlled the show. Then 'MDC' members unrolled ready made banners and started to mindlessly shout 'Mugabe Must Go' (or Moo-Gah-Bey Muzz Go), repeatedly.
It looks like Morgan Tsvangirai does not even have a constituency in the UK. All they want is their estates back. The MDC is more corrupt than ZANU-PF could ever be. They don't even stand up for their own people's interests, justt their personal selfinterest.
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Subject: tsvangirayi is right lets go back home those with skills to rebuilt
Sun, 21 Jun 2009 13:14:14 • YES WE MUST GO BACK HOME MOST OF THE SKILLED WORKERS ARE HERE ALL OVER IN DISPORA WHO IS GOING TO TRAIN OUR FELLOW YOUNG PEOPLE FOR THEM TO GAIN SKILLS FOR THE FUTUER OF ZIMBABWE .DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AFTER OLD UNPRODUCTIVE PEOPLE THAN TO TRAIN OUR YOUNSTERS . TO LOOK AFTER OLD PEOPLE GIVEN A CHOICE WHO WOULD WANT TO DO THAT KIND OF A DIRTY JOB GUYS. UNLESS ORE OTHERWISE IF YOU DONT HAVE ANY SKILLS YOU MIGHT AS WELL GO AHEAD. WE ZIMBABWEANS WE ARE LEARNED WHY WASTE OUR SKILLS NEKU CHENGETA CHEMBERE .KUBATISWA TSVINA SHAME .GO BACK HOME. WE CAN ONLY THANK YOU THEM FOR ACCOMODATING US IN THERE COUNTRY. WHO WANTS TO BE CARER IF YOU HAVE GOT SKILLS ITS THE SITUATION THAT FORCED US TO DO THAT KIND OF A JOB. HOME IS BEST GUYS THINK OF IT.
mwalej • mwalej@yahoo.ocm
Subject: detail on how exiles could help please
Sun, 21 Jun 2009 10:49:39 • Mr Tsvangirai I want you to give details on how exiles could help. At the moment a lot of people in exile need help - its not as colourful as you may want to think and they got to be guaranteed assistance by your new outfit - GNU on their return. I have lost close to 7 years of my life in exile and this is not a joke and I don’t want to be driven into destitution on my return home.
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Subject: cowards
Sun, 21 Jun 2009 10:31:40 • all u living in the UK and who booed the PM please stay in the Uk for u are cowards who ran away from home......u did not vote in the last elections so u have no say in anything that is happening here in Zim......we who stayed here in Zim are getting along with trying to rebuild our beloved country......the fact is that mugabe is going nowhere he still has massive support here in Zim so if u think that our PM can wave a magic wand and make him dissapear then u are living in fairy land........so if u want to stay in the UK and pay your taxes to the british then stay .......... ZIMBABWE WILL SURVIVE FOR WE ARE STRONG........
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Subject: booing PM
Sun, 21 Jun 2009 08:33:05 • It is wrong to just boo someone without listening to them, and engaging constructively. trying to understand what they have gone through.
The major challenge with Zimbabweans abroad is they are now too aloof and lack understanding of whats happening on the ground. Robert Mugabe and Zanu Pf are not a walk-over as you wish to think or imagine.
I am personally amazed that Tsvangirai, and Mutambara have managed to get this far.
Lets give the guys a chance to rebuild, and lets support them, at least we are going in positive direction.
J Gwizi • jgwizo@gmail.com
Subject: re: UK PM booed.
Sun, 21 Jun 2009 04:54:51 • This where democracy comes on its own, people left Zimbabwe because of political persecussion and now the pendulum is swinging to the other side and it is not possible to read from this action what the UK based Zimbabweans hoped for. Yes Zimbabwe is still going through the ZANU-PF sponsored unlawlessness but when are we going to come in and help others in the final match. I read that the UK based people want their contributions in kind acknowledged and I agree with that but that assistance has to be given with an open mind and not act as if its for a due process.
Yes everyone is free to live wherever they please but it is not noble to appreciate that our individual efforts received free and committed support from our society. Let’s uphold that and chide those who believe of superior role to others, each one of us should come up with the assistance required. I think the PM seeks our support and in this case he is like many other law abiding citizens searching and wondering for answers to reassure those who are against a democratic Zimbabwe that his efforts and those in the inclusive government is aimed to benefit all only if we commit to cooperative discourse.
Farai • Farai@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: History repeats itself
Sat, 20 Jun 2009 23:42:03 • Evidence tells us that this not the first Tsvangirai has done this. He did it in Luton and it was followed by massive deportations of Zimbabweans in UK and he did it South Africa and then did not participate in the run off when people were beaten. Surely with our country struggling to pay the workers there, what’s the point of calling many people back. The Prime minister cannot tell us that he does not understand the part played by the people in Diaspora today when all along UK has been a cash cow for MDC. Again a minister's husband was just attacked which just proves what Sekai Holland was saying, one wonders what the Prime minister is up to. Looking at the content of his statement that “Zimbabweans MUST” return home is just disgusting, who does he thing he is? This man does not understand what representing the people is; he is only concerned with his own agendas that are only known to him and his allies. I am very worried what’s going to happen after this statement but one day this will come back to bite him. I am not sorry for what happened to him at all.
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Subject: Would Zimbabweans go home if Mugabe goes?
Sat, 20 Jun 2009 23:24:39 • I think the Zimbabweans are losing it. Poor tshwangirai, he is just trying to do something good not knowing that these people are economic refugees nothing else. I believe if mugabe goes, these people will be fucked so they have to vent their anger at the poor man. Please think along those lines because one way or the other You will be hearding to Zimbabwe. Think about what can be done so that life is better for you back there instead of shooting the messenger.
Teeman • timsteeman@aol.com
Subject: MT
Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:14:51 • Understanding what the word 'change' means is a dilema for all Zimbabweans including our leaders. How would MT tell us to go back home as if we all came in the same plane, on an MDC mission. It is important to note that Zimbabweans in the UK jave tasted freedom of speech and do understand that the have got rights which should be respected by every individual regardless of their political position. Democracy MT.
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Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:41:46 • What a world we live in! Morgan Tsvangirai, the only man upon whom most Zimbabweans looked up to for a better Zimbabwe. Yet he has shown that he is as bad as they come. The man is self delusional to say the least. He completely misread the Zimbabweans in the diaspora. He thinks that diasporans are out of touch with what is happening on the ground in Zimbabwe. This can not be any further than the real truth. He has completely forgotten the fact that Zimbabweans are tired of these politics of patronage. What he said today is not any diffent from a Zanu PF government that has been making promises to rural Zimbabweans by promising them tractors for all, grain silos being deemed to be full to capacity and the like. For his information, Tsvangirai's ignorance of what is going on under his armpit is reminscent of a situation where you call out for a qualified electrician to sort out your household's electrical problems during a holiday period and a plumber turns up instead. Upon enquiry to the electrician's company, you are told that HE IS THE ONLY ONE WE GOT. This PM says Zimbabwe is a changed place. Ye, we know that. You now use United States Dollars and you are now supping with the devil. What else? Eh, eh, nothing much! Unemployment at 98%. No reliable water or electricity. Thugs who raped and killed Zimbabweans during the elections still roaming freely on the Zimbabwean streets hoping that another time will come for a repeat perfomance. Civil Service on the brink of collapse and ready for a countrywide protest for an improvement to their renumeration. In the meantime diasporans sending what they can back to Zimbabwe and sustaining families. What Tsvangirai did not put in his mind is the fact that Zimbabweans in the diaspora made their own decisions to leave Zimbabwe. They will make their own decisions to return. Its that simple. The only difference now is that when people thought that Tsvangirai could be that man for Zimbabwe, they have discovered instead that he is self dellusional, utterly incapable of grasping the simple realities that is facing him and, to make matters worse, he is the only one Zimbabwe has got at the moment. He is trying to preach to the converted. He is still talking politics of nationalism why, by the way, are the mains reasons why Zimbabwe is in turmoil and diasporans are where thay are at the moment.
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Subject: MDC SUPPORTERS ARE COWARDS.
Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:33:43 • I cannot believe the total arrogance of those rude MDC supporters who chose to boo our Prime Minister during his visit to London.
This poor man is still in his first year of mourning. How short lived are the minds of his supporters who only a few months ago were blaming our President for this terrible accident.
How disgusting and demoralising. Acting like the locals just cos they have the privilege of living here now.
Why didnt one of you turn around and punch the others on their noses I will never know. (Doubt the cops would not have done anything because it would have been inhouse politics. Were they even present?)
You lot certainly have no guts and no manners and should be ashamed of yourselves. Obviously not one of you could never do waht he has done to date yet you dare to boo him in front of the international media?
So embarrassing for the rest of us Zimbabweans in the UK.
There is not one of you who is capable of taking his place and doing the most difficult job our PM is doing. If so you could be standing up there now instead of him.
Its amazing how brave you are in a crowd but in fact you are a load of mannerless, feeble cowardly idiots. Am surprised you were not throwing rocks! Have you ever seen any one boo our President in this despicable manner?
We dont need your type back in Zimbabwe. Best you stay here squatting alongside the rabble you are quick to immitate.
On the one hand it makes you wonder just how many of them paid the £100 to dine with him - those who live in Zimbabwe have no idea just how expensive it is to live in the UK and to fork out £100 for a meal is a right larf.
I am sure the Dinner Date was not his idea but that of those who live over here, and have grabbed this opportunity to ride the gravy train of MPs so that they could rub shoulders as celebs and pocket the profits. Betcha they ate for free!
actor • rmahlahla@hotmail.com
Subject: TSVANGIRAI MUST HAVE A PERSONAL ASSISTANT
Sat, 20 Jun 2009 18:09:17 • PM Tsvangirai Why you meeting has been a flop is you seem to be out of touch with events on the ground in Zimbabwe. As a PM we expect you to understand better the limitations you are experiencing in trying to help Zimbabwe. It is these issues that you have failed to explain to the exiled Zimbabweans that will fail people understanding your role in the GNU. We are prepared to offer you objective analysis and reporting of events that are affecting ordinary Zimbabweans in Zimbabwe as well as in exile. All these people are willing to support you provided you remain focused beyond trying to get individual travel bans for Mugabe's Cronies lifted. It is this issue that seem to distract you from telling the world the truth of what Zimbabweans is going through. It is now clear why Mugabe has confidence in treating the MDC leader as a minor in the GNU.
Objective reporting would make life easier and simple to sustain.
Mhofeti • pasizw@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Tsvangirai booed during London address
Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:31:22 • Surely booing our PM is not the way to go about it? This is a typical problem of people who think solutions to every crisis is through protest. How about handing in a signed petition listing our common concerns and calling for our government to look into them? The situation back home may be nowhere near perfect but you can't boo away the wisdom of the PM's call to the concerned people to start thinking of going back home. Lest we forget, the developed world that we all clamour to live in came as a result of great sacrifices and difficult choices by the founding generations. I don't suppose the booing crowd went back to their places contented that they had presented their understandable anxieties with the PM and laid a foundation of trust for future dialogue. Another own goal in the name of freedom of expression and democracy.
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