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n/a • n/a Subject: n/a Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:38:55 • Gwizo-The moral of the story is that these western backed political parties like MDC-T that are mushrooming all over Africa under the mantra of democracy and change, do not deliver the goods for the benefits of the people.The West only backs those parties that promote their interests and not the interests of Africa. Chiluba introduced free market economic concepts in Zambia .He promoted privitasation and guess what the investors from the west rushed into Zambia and grabbed state assets and the country's minerals which were going for a song. Jobs were temporarily created to create a facade of change and progress . At the sign of a recession, the western companies having creamed the profits took off as quickly as they had come in leaving the Zambian govt to deal with the aftermath of unemployment created.The Zambian govt did not get much out of the intial investment because of favourable tax regimes offered to the foreign investors. In Zimbabwe, Biti and MDC-T are heavily promoting these free market concepts that have failed dismally everywhere including the West. Is Biti proposing HIPC? Where has HIPC ever worked? Zimbabwe in particular should emulate the Chinese successful model of economic development which has resulted in the lifting of over 400 million people out of poverty within 30 years. The Chinese are self reliant and welcome controlled foreign investment. Without Chinese goods , the western economies will struggle. China is now the epicentre of world manufacturing. It is the Chinese who are helping the US out of a recession. China is bankrolling the US economy to the tune of trillion of dollars. Does who pays the piper plays the tune ring a bell?
That is why Obama in his speech in China invited the Chinese to join the US as world leaders. The most important grouping now is the G2 which is China and the US.It is a pity that Zimbabweans like you Gwizo are not seeing the wider picture. There is a new world order developing. The European countries are moving towards a European superstate with a European President.Asean countries are also grouping. Africa should be pushing for the United States of Africa if it is going to be of any relevance in the new scheme of things. Instead of wasting energy concentrating on problems of a little country like Zimbabwe, African leaders should be forging ahead with uniting Africa as one.It is MDC-T which is forever putting Zimbabwe in the spotlight unnecessarily. The solutions to Zimbabwean problems lie with Zimbabweans. There is no one whether from the West or East who will solve Zimbabweans problems.Unless Zimbabweans are prepared to knuckle down, and partner with genuine developmental partners to develop the country, then the problems will persist. No amount of democracy, good governance , freedom of the press , human rights will improve the conditions of the poor.What democracy is there when one is poor and starving? Why are some Zimbabweans going to work on farms in South Africa when the land is lying idle in Zimbabwe? The problem with Zimbabweans especially those in the diaspora is that they engage in a lot of sloganeering and very little action. Can we have more action and less proclamation of intentions from Zimbabweans both inside and outside of the country? People are fed up of a people like Zimbabweans whose sole role is to tarnish the image of their own country day in and day out.Don't you have any shame?Zimbabweans are deluding themselves that they are a special species that need to be preserved.They are only being used to fight other people's geo-political battles. Wake up and smell the coffee Zimbabweans!
n/a • n/a Subject: n/a Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:37:22 • Gwizo-The moral of the story is that these western backed political parties like MDC-T that are mushrooming all over Africa under the mantra of democracy and change, do not deliver the goods for the benefits of the people.The West only backs those parties that promote their interests and not the interests of Africa. Chiluba introduced free market economic concepts in Zambia .He promoted privitasation and guess what the investors from the west rushed into Zambia and grabbed state assets and the country's minerals which were going for a song. Jobs were temporarily created to create a facade of change and progress . At the sign of a recession, the western companies having creamed the profits took off as quickly as they had come in leaving the Zambian govt to deal with the aftermath of unemployment created.The Zambian govt did not get much out of the intial investment because of favourable tax regimes offered to the foreign investors. In Zimbabwe, Biti and MDC-T are heavily promoting these free market concepts that have failed dismally everywhere including the West. Is Biti proposing HIPC? Where has HIPC ever worked? Zimbabwe in particular should emulate the Chinese successful model of economic development which has resulted in the lifting of over 400 million people out of poverty within 30 years. The Chinese are self reliant and welcome controlled foreign investment. Without Chinese goods , the western economies will struggle. China is now the epicentre of world manufacturing. It is the Chinese who are helping the US out of a recession. China is bankrolling the US economy to the tune of trillion of dollars. Does who pays the piper plays the tune ring a bell?
That is why Obama in his speech in China invited the Chinese to join the US as world leaders. The most important grouping now is the G2 which is China and the US.It is a pity that Zimbabweans like you Gwizo are not seeing the wider picture. There is a new world order developing. The European countries are moving towards a European superstate with a European President.Asean countries are also grouping. Africa should be pushing for the United States of Africa if it is going to be of any relevance in the new scheme of things. Instead of wasting energy concentrating on problems of a little country like Zimbabwe, African leaders should be forging ahead with uniting Africa as one.It is MDC-T which is forever putting Zimbabwe in the spotlight unnecessarily. The solutions to Zimbabwean problems lie with Zimbabweans. There is no one whether from the West or East who will solve Zimbabweans problems.Unless Zimbabweans are prepared to knuckle down, and partner with genuine developmental partners to develop the country, then the problems will persist. No amount of democracy, good governance , freedom of the press , human rights will improve the conditions of the poor.What democracy is there when one is poor and starving? Why are some Zimbabweans going to work on farms in South Africa when the land is lying idle in Zimbabwe? The problem with Zimbabweans especially those in the diaspora is that they engage in a lot of sloganeering and very little action. Can we have more action and less proclamation of intentions from Zimbabweans both inside and outside of the country? People are fed up of a people like Zimbabweans whose sole role is to tarnish the image of their own country day in and day out.Don't you have any shame?Zimbabweans are deluding themselves that they are a special species that need to be preserved.They are only being used to fight other people's geo-political battles. Wake up and smell the coffee Zimbabweans!
JOHN GWIZO • jgwizo@gmail.com Subject: re: Learn from Chiluba saga. Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:57:13 • I was hoping to read about the rational to the about freely given advice but there is none. There is praise to President Kaunda without reservation and the advice that he is the father of ZAMBIA. Somehow I am worried by the warped logic of the writer that because President Chiluba was not as well successful as President Kaunda, it might be because he was not a founding father of Zambia.
Kaunda was not the first citizen of Zambia and there is no justifiable reason to suggect he had different rights to these other people. In fact this exclusive mentality is the very cause of these two leaders' failure. Forget of points of history as static and that the history of our countries is countinuous and failure to appreciate that would lead to stale arguments that others may be denied the right to leadership because his mother told you so.
n/a • n/a Subject: n/a Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:27:29 • Obama stated that Zimbabwe was a threat to the foreign interests of the US. He never stated that the actions of the US were meant to protect Zimbabwe interests. When people like Chiluba does the west's bidding, they should know that they are doing so at the expense of their own countries' interests. Zimbabweans and MDC-T in particular should learn from Chiluba's experience. History has a tendency to repeat itself.
n/a • n/a Subject: n/a Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:26:20 • Obama stated that Zimbabwe was a threat to the foreign interests of the US. He never stated that the actions of the US were meant to protect Zimbabwe interests.When people like Chiluba does the west's bidding, they should know that they are doing so at the expense of their own countries' interests.Zimbabweans and MDC-T in particular should learn from Chiluba's experience. History has a tendency to repeat itself.
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